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Purification of aluminum...

evil_lurker - 4-5-2007 at 11:15

Suppose I were to melt an engine block and/or transmission (its been done before :D ).

And lets say I wanted to refine the unkown alloy.

What would be a good way of doing so? Some kind of flux?

roamingnome - 4-5-2007 at 11:34

assuming your melting like the whole thing, a mix of metals.
phase diagrams then show how to crystalize pure metal regions

http://www.thefabricator.com/Articles/Photos/676/fig2.gif

the text book and engine blocks seldom match cleanly i would guess....

not_important - 4-5-2007 at 11:52

Most alloying metals for aluminium are less reactive than Al, it's like trying to get the silver and gold out of lead. It is possible that there is a flux that Al2O3 is not soluble in, and that can latch on to the alloying metals, most likely you can remove silicon that way.

The basic methods that I know of are

find a metal that has very low solubility in molten Al, and melts at a low enough temperature that it and molten Al can coexist, and that the alloying metals are soluble in. Mix the two together, allow to separate, remove the other metal, repeat. Don't ask me what metal would work.

electrorefine the aluminium - plate from the impure metal as anode to pure Al cathode, using a suitable electrolyte. This patent is similar in concept http://www.freepatentsonline.com/RE30330.html


fractional crystallization US Patent 6398845


Passing AlCl3 vapour over Al at a high temperature, which forms AlCl, then leading that through particle filters to a cooler area where the reverse reaction back to AlCl3 vapour and Al metal occurs; the AlCl3 is recycled but may need a purge and replace ever so oft.

Eclectic - 4-5-2007 at 12:09

The simple way to get fairly pure aluminum from a scrap engine block or transmission would be to take it to your local metal recycler and trade it for Al electrical cable, 99.5% pure, some Mg, some Si.

evil_lurker - 4-5-2007 at 12:11

Yeah, I'm pretty limited in my capabilities.

Generally I just take a 55 gallon open head drum, burn a hole in the side with an arc welder and drill a 3/4" hole in the bottom, prop it up on blocks, fill it halfway with good oak or hickory firewood, and set the engine or transmission on top, and finally shove a pipe hooked up to a shop vac in the hole in the side.

Light it up, turn on the shop vac, and in about 30-40 minutes the whole thing is melted and run out the hole in the bottom. :D Cheap and effective blast furnace, and usually the drum manages to survive several heat cycles.

Temp on the outside of the drum can usually get to around orangish, and the copper pipe I use to feed air into the drum usually melts some.

12AX7 - 4-5-2007 at 13:08

Transmissions and other cast products are around 10% Si and a few total percent other elements. Coincidentially, it's the perfect alloy for casting...

Tim