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Frodhe's reagent

chemrox - 15-8-2007 at 22:18

Does anyone know how to mix Frodhe's reagent or what it is? It's used to distinguish among alkaloids and compares with Marquis reagent which I understand to be 2 drops of formalin and 3 ml con sulfuric.

jim20/20 - 18-8-2007 at 11:40

do you mean froede reagant

Dissolve 0.5 g of molybdic acid or sodium molybate in 100 mL of hot concentrated sulfuric acid.

from

Color Test Reagents/Kits for Preliminary
Identification of Drugs of Abuse
http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/183258.pdf

phase_dancer - 18-8-2007 at 13:11

For Froehdes reagent, 'Clarkes Analysis of Drugs and Poisons' states 1.0g in 100mL of conc sulfuric acid. The temperature doesn't need to be high, but stiring helps. I've found the reagent keeps well for over 2 years if refrigerated.

Here's a few color references;

Color -- Compound

Yellow -- Hydrocodone, pethidine

Yellow–blue -- Oxycodone HCl

Orange -- Diphenhydramine, flurazepam, promazine, trifluoperazine, triflupromazine

Green -- Chlorphentermine, codeine, mescaline, oxycodone, phenyltoloxamine

Yellow–green -- Lysergide

Blue -- Pentazocine

Red -- Amfetamine, chlorpromazine HCl

Grey–red -- Propoxyphene HCl

Purple–red -- Alimemazine, diacetylmorphine, promethazine, propylhexadrine, salicylicacid, tetracycline, thioridazine

Brown -- Ephedrine, mescaline

Red–brown -- Doxepin HCl

Black -- (nothing listed)

Brown–black -- Opium

Green–black --Methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA) HCl


The following paper is an excellent reference for Froehdes and other reagents, listing reaction color changes for over 200 drugs :

Johns, S. H. et. al., "Spot Tests: A Color Chart Reference for Forensic Chemists," Journal of Forensic Sciences,
Volume 24, No.3, July 1979, pp. 631-649

guy - 18-8-2007 at 14:06

That's cool, how does it work?

@phase_dancer

chemrox - 18-8-2007 at 22:57

@phase_dancer
Thanks for the ref. Could you copy the article and post a link to it?

phase_dancer - 19-8-2007 at 00:34

chemrox; see this link in the reference section.

As for the mechanisms behind the reagent reactions; I was hoping someone else might offer something solid. I've nothing definitive and can find no reference to the exact mechanisms of this reagent. Mo oxidation states and various ligands produce interesting but also some complex compounds. See Kirk-Othmer Encylcopedia of Chemical Technology, 4th Ed, vol 16, p 469