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Aqeous chemistry of TiAl6V4

chloric1 - 4-1-2008 at 16:19

Well, way behind schedule as usual. I am finally getting around to etching my titanium rods in preparation for my anodes. Interesting things happened. I havea 50ml test tube maybe 6 or 8 inches long. My rods are 12 inches and I need extra length for connections. I put 31% HCl into the test tube after I had a 600ml beaker with boiling water. I put the test tube with the Conc acid into the water. The titanium started to bubble immediately but gave ablackish green solution! WTF!:o:mad: Getting pissed, I thought I was ripped off and sold steel. I did a magnet test and nothing happened. So I probably have the right stuff. I proceeded to recheck the acid solution in a light source. The green is a lot darker than ferrous chloride complexes and more like strong cupric chloride but with more black hues. Suddenly, I remembered that vanadium forms intense green tetravalent chloro complexes, but the allow is rather low on vanadium. To make sure I have a good etch, I added roughly 1 gram of reagent grade sodium fluoride. Immediately the reaction got more vigorous and I got a golden brown like a strong wisky color! WTF! I left it in there for awhile(15 min approx) so I could eat and feed my little girl, went back and had a DEEP purple solution. I know this looks right! FINALLY!:D:D But what the hell is up with the other colors??

Twospoons - 4-1-2008 at 17:25

"so I could eat and feed my little girl" - that sounds awfully dodgy. I'd put a comma after "eat", if I were you :D

chloric1 - 4-1-2008 at 17:50

:o:o:mad:OK you know what I meant. Please lets keep this on titanium based topics.

guy - 4-1-2008 at 18:01

the other brown color could be a fluoro-vanadium complex

chloric1 - 4-1-2008 at 18:25

Really!? That is intersting thanks. I will try to research the vanadium a little more. MAybe the Vanadium dissolved before the titanium would react. Well, anyways I got my etched Ti rods. I will coat them tomorrow.