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Florida University Recommendations

Hello,

I am a senior in high school and am currently finishing my AA degree. I am interested in going to school for chemistry. Does anyone have a recommendation on where to go to university? I am interested in staying in Florida for economic reasons.

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Send a U2U to MrHomeScientist. He lives in Fl, has industry experience and also has his hand in education (not tertairy level). He is likely to have good anecdotal information to offer.
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VSEPR_VOID, do yourself a favour and apply everywhere you can in America; you could get a scholarship and then not have to worry about economic reasons.
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I know I am a bit biased here but look into C. engineering or Materials Eng. Both are very lucrative and fulfilling careers for only four years of school, and there are literally so many scholarships out there that you can make money at school. Colorado School of Mines, Missouri S&T, South Dakota School of Mines, Virginia Tech, and Montana Tech all have excellent programs. South Dakota, Missouri, and Montana are all very generous with there scholarships too...

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 Quote: Originally posted by HeYBrO VSEPR_VOID, do yourself a favour and apply everywhere you can in America; you could get a scholarship and then not have to worry about economic reasons.
Speaking from experience here, at least in Texas, in state tuition costs much less than out of state. So I was offered a scholarship of $12,000 a year from an out of state university, but that would still leave me paying$10,000 a year if I went there. On the other hand, a university in Texas offered me $8,000 a year, and that leaves me paying only$1,000, and it was much more convenient. Which would you choose?

[Edited on 11-7-2018 by Texium (zts16)]

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You just told me that you were finishing your second year of chemistry at a University in Florida and didn't mention you were still in high school. How are you doing both at once? Was all that you wrote total BS or what?
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 Quote: Originally posted by RogueRose You just told me that you were finishing your second year of chemistry at a University in Florida and didn't mention you were still in high school. How are you doing both at once? Was all that you wrote total BS or what?

Its part of a special program where I take classes at a local state college and at the same time get credit for HS. I started taking AP classes as a freshman.

My grades are okay. I have a gpa of 3.5 I think and an HPA of 4.2. I am working on scholarships. I am a B and A student, and got straight As once. I also have won multiple awards for science at the state level.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

Someone told me that I should go too Berkeley in Ca, and I would be honored, but I am worried about scholarships and the cost of living there.

So far FSU is on my list as a prime candidate but I guess I will also spend applications to MIT and Berkeley.

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Quote: Originally posted by Texium (zts16)
 Quote: Originally posted by HeYBrO VSEPR_VOID, do yourself a favour and apply everywhere you can in America; you could get a scholarship and then not have to worry about economic reasons.
Speaking from experience here, at least in Texas, in state tuition costs much less than out of state. So I was offered a scholarship of $12,000 a year from an out of state university, but that would still leave me paying$10,000 a year if I went there. On the other hand, a university in Texas offered me $8,000 a year, and that leaves me paying only$1,000, and it was much more convenient. Which would you choose?

Neither; i'm in Australia and I have hex debt I would still apply for scholarships in any case.

[Edited on 4-11-2018 by HeYBrO]

[Edited on 11-7-2018 by Texium (zts16)]
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Actually, my best advice depending on your intended occupation is pretend you now have the degree and call the personnel department for one or more target companies. What areas are they or have been hiring? Ask about their hiring criteria like fondness for select schools and then it may not matter much. Grades or class ranking how material?

The next most important area is the background check and things like your credit score especially for insurance and financial companies. There are ways to improve your credit score (like apply for many small borrowing limit cards that you paid promptly each month). The credit scoring companies may lower your credit score due to a large outstanding debts, so if an important factor for your particular career, don't borrow a lot more even for a better school that your prospective employer doesn't really care about.

The last point, based on experience from my fellow workers, is that personal appearance is, at times, extremely important. I remember how my fellow workers really like this female candidate who was 'hot', actually too much skin displayed for the time of year! Upon further review she was the least qualified! In other words, your looks really counts more than it should, read this article https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/appearance-applying-for-a-j... to quote in part:

"The University of Florida has found that for every extra inch of height a tall worker can expect to earn an extra $789 per year. So, with two equally skilled people, the one who is six inches taller can expect a pay difference of$5,000 or so."

One of my bosses actually always wore boots that added at least an inch to his height!

[Edited on 5-11-2018 by AJKOER]
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If you apply to UC Berkeley it is EXTREMELY hard to get any form of financial support in any way. I have a friend who obtained the National Merit Scholarship from the PSAT when he was in high school, but UCB didn't take it. And also, adding on to zts, in state is often cheaper, so if you do prioritize finances/tuition stay in state. But it doesn't hurt to apply, just to see if you get in.

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Another point to make is that if you're planning on pursuing grad school eventually, the institution matters more for that than it does for your undergrad. So if you go to an in state university for your undergrad and do well there, you'll have a good shot at getting into a PhD program at a more prestigious out of state university. And then finances aren't as much of an issue since you'd get a stipend for grad school.

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Thanks for the bump, j_sum! You know me well, it seems

I had a similar choice to make for my education. Had I stayed in Florida it would have been vastly cheaper, but I ended up at Virginia Tech. It's a really great school; I had a fantastic time and got a great education. My degree is in Physics, but all of their engineering programs are excellent as well. Chemical engineering is one of the highest-paying professions, so that's a nice bonus.

I also encourage you to apply to several different places. You never know what opportunities might come up, and all it takes is a little bit of your time. I collected all the college brochures I got in the mail and laid them all out on the floor, and spent a day going through every one. I picked several that I was interested in and sent applications to each one.
Every institution has its pros and cons, and those are things to consider carefully. Things like location, cost, scholarships, reputation, style of campus, etc. The most important aspect, though, is the quality of your education. That's why you're there. That's what will affect your search for jobs and quality as an employee. All the rest will just become a fond memory or a bill that you will eventually pay off and forget about. But knowledge lasts forever. (Well, until you forget it!)

VT also had a great job search website that connected me to my current job, back in Florida. I just typed in my degree and desired state and there it was. I applied, flew down to interview, and was hired within a week of graduating. (That was 10 years ago now. Damn...) All colleges will have job search resources, but it might not be a bad idea to check into that beforehand and see what sort of help each place offers.

Finally if you can afford it, I definitely recommend going on a campus tour. It really helps to get the feel for a place and where you'll fit in.
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Gotta go with the Gator's, for purely personal reasons. Grew up 30 miles south of Gainesville! I know they have a great agricultural college......

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 Quote: So if you go to an in state university for your undergrad and do well there,

This is a big "if", lots of people have this idea going in but then they learn how fun college is.

[Edited on 04-20-1969 by clearly_not_atara]
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Quote: Originally posted by clearly_not_atara
 Quote: So if you go to an in state university for your undergrad and do well there,

This is a big "if", lots of people have this idea going in but then they learn how fun college is.
True enough. I'm managing to stick to it pretty well though- it's my third year and I still have a 3.87 (and I've had my share of fun too ).

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Quote: Originally posted by Texium (zts16)
Quote: Originally posted by clearly_not_atara
 Quote: So if you go to an in state university for your undergrad and do well there,

This is a big "if", lots of people have this idea going in but then they learn how fun college is.
True enough. I'm managing to stick to it pretty well though- it's my third year and I still have a 3.87 (and I've had my share of fun too ).

I am not one for recreation but I have trouble finding motivation for school, especialyly when so many classes fall into the category of fluff, watered-down material, or propaganda .

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 Quote: Originally posted by VSEPR_VOID I am not one for recreation but I have trouble finding motivation for school, especialyly when so many classes fall into the category of fluff, watered-down material, or propaganda .

I can recommend Mississippi State University. While I cannot speak about the chemistry program here, the professors in chemical engineering care about the students, and if you make an effort they will notice. There are fluff classes and watered down classes, but as a I said before, it is an unfortunate price you just have to pay. I was fortunate and came in with enough credit from high school to skip most of these classes, and it sounds like you might as well. As far as finances go, you would have to look at the financial aid website and see what applies to you. A lot of it is based on test scores, but there are scholarships through the different departments and other organizations as well.

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What classes do you consider "propaganda"?
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Anything that is politically motivated, has political influence, or is has its curriculum designed by heavily biased individuals who are interested in spreading their ideology. For example a economics class taught by a professor who self identifies as a communist and talks endlessly about marxist or Leninist theory.

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Would you be just as offended if they were instead a strong advocate of Laissez-Faire capitalism? Regardless, that seems like a very specific and unlikely scenario...

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It may just be me and my college days have long passed.

From a political point, I feel that being exposed to most of the ideologies is
a great thing. It really helps if you actually know what it is that you are disagreeing about.

I feel the same way about history.

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I agree with morganbw, knowing about something makes you able to judge, but do you really expect such classes during a chemistry study?
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 Quote: Originally posted by VSEPR_VOID Anything that is politically motivated, has political influence, or is has its curriculum designed by heavily biased individuals who are interested in spreading their ideology. For example a economics class taught by a professor who self identifies as a communist and talks endlessly about marxist or Leninist theory.

In first-year English I had a prof who was really enthusiastic about the natural/slow-food movement. I mostly just played along and took home an A. It's not like it cost me anything, and we got free food some days.

In second-year creative psych we reviewed some studies that had political implications. The professor didn't express strong political opinions, but the implication of the studies was so depressing I decided to stop taking psychology classes.

I think I'm a better person for having taken both courses, though.

[Edited on 04-20-1969 by clearly_not_atara]

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