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[*] posted on 3-12-2003 at 18:16
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is it possible to extract sodium hydroxide from a hydrogen peroxide & sodium peroxide solution.

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[*] posted on 3-12-2003 at 18:19


Do you want sodium hydroxide,or just to make it?
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[*] posted on 3-12-2003 at 19:47
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actually i want to seperate a sodium hydroxide, hydrogen peroxide mixture that is sold OTC, each one of these chemicals by themselves are much more useful to me than mixed together



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[*] posted on 4-12-2003 at 22:17


It's not going to be practical to separate them. Since NaOH and H2O2 are so readily available, I can't imagine a scenario where you wouldn't be better off just getting the individual ingredients.
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[*] posted on 5-12-2003 at 13:59
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sure h2o2 is available by itself. in low concentrations. but good luck finding it in a 30% concentration mixture like it is in this sodium hydroxide and hydrogen peroxide mixture



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[*] posted on 5-12-2003 at 14:41


Hate to burst your bubble, but it's not hard to find in 30%. People use it as a concentrate for the antibiotic. It's used in swimming pools for I don't know what. (clarification of water?) People use it for health reasons, as it actually drink it, diluted of course. The list keeps going. I've heard 50% is comercially available. Oxyplus I think is the brand name. I think it's an Australia thing mainly, if I do recall.
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[*] posted on 5-12-2003 at 15:07
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the antibiotic solution sold at the super market is only three percent, as for swimming pools i will have to look into that, and who gives a shit about what you can buy in australia i'm an american

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[*] posted on 5-12-2003 at 17:05
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Keep it civil :P.

The only OTC product I know of that uses H2O2 and NaOH together is 2 part wood bleach. Is this from a wood bleaching kit? If so, I'd be very surprised if the H2O2 and NaOH were already mixed. Alkaline H2O2 tends to decompose rapidly. Every wood bleaching kit I've found that has H2O2 in it stores the H2O2 and NaOH solution in separate bottles, to be mixed up right before use.
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[*] posted on 5-12-2003 at 17:56


polverone now that i think about it the wood bleach does have to containers, sorry about that, man i feel like an ass.

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[*] posted on 22-12-2003 at 00:24


Peroxide can also be found at some farm supply stores. Look for dairy farm cleaners like oxyguard. If it's blue and starts with oxy look at the label. also look in beauty supply stores(professional)they usualy will have it also. Sodium hydroxide is avail. in drain cleaner,it's also called lye the stuff i got is red devil brand,and got it at meijers.
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[*] posted on 7-1-2004 at 13:59


You can make NaOH from saltwater.The water/salt concentration has to be heated
because you have to get 1 part of salt into 1 part of H2O.
While keeping the solution heated you have to run a current through the mixture.
It has to be a strong current.
You seperate the NaOH from the HCl using a baster




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[*] posted on 8-1-2004 at 08:56


Thanks for the math,but i was speaking on
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[*] posted on 8-1-2004 at 09:45


If i needed a small amount of HCl for
crystalizing i would do it.
I would make Hydrazine Hydrate instead of
Hydrazine Sulphate.What the hell are you going
to do with Hydrazine Sulphate?
I would rather snort morphine pills than
work with sulphuric acid

Where does the third oxygen atom come from
in the equation NaCl+H2O=NaClO3 + H2




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[*] posted on 8-1-2004 at 11:02


I'll be careful next time.

Just like if i want to precipitate
NaOH at a 30% ratio.
I would take 100 ml of the solution to
1500 ml of a 3% NaClO solution to get my
NaOH precipitate.

That is NaOH + 15NaClO=whatever




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[*] posted on 8-1-2004 at 11:20


Some hydroponics suppliers sell reasonably concentrated H2O2 as 'liquid oxygen'.



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