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[*] posted on 29-12-2009 at 12:37
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Whoever comes up with a way to controllably add EO or PO to a monoalkylated benzene wherein the alkyl chain is in the fatty acid range length, may make themselves a fortune if they handle the business and IP side of things appropriately. Problem is, alkoxylations are outside the skill level of most. I have what I think is one really danged good idea, but lack the facilities.....
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[*] posted on 29-12-2009 at 13:40


By "EO"and "PO", do you mean ethylene oxide and propylene oxide, the two simplest epoxides? They do not appear to react directly with long-chain monoalkylated benzenes, which are relatively unreactive, at all. Their principal ring-opening reactions under ordinary circumstances are: hydrolysis with aqueous acids to form glycols (with phenols, if sufficiently acidic, they may form an ether with a vicinal -OH), and with primary or secondary amines to form secondary or tertiary amines with a vicinal -OH group; and with Grignard reagents followed by acid hydrolysis to form a substituted ethanol.

So to do that, i.e. adding a polar group to the ring of a long-chain monoalkylated benzene, and one that will react with a low-molecular-weight epoxide, you would have to do something like a ring mono-nitration with HNO3 + H2SO4 (which is likely to form mostly the para-isomer which for surfactant purposes would be the best, a much smaller amount of ortho-isomer, and a very small amount of meta-isomer), followed by reduction of the -NO2 group to -NH2 with nascent H or with H2 catalytically. Then this aromatic amine could be reacted with an epoxide to form a secondary amine/alcohol, which could then be oxidized to an amino-acid.

Alternatively, the aromatic amine formed as above could be reacted with NaNO2 and H2SO4 at low temperature to form a diazonium salt, and then this heated to 100ÂșC with more H2SO4 to form a phenol and then this phenol (assuming it is sufficiently acid) reacted with the epoxide to form an alkoxy-alcohol, which could be then oxidized to an alkoxy-substituted acetic acid

But would such molecules be good surfactants, compared with those already on the market?

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[*] posted on 29-12-2009 at 13:54


there's a ton of LAB available, that's used as precursor to the LAB sulfonates. If that stream could be used to make alkoxylated LAB, that would be a winner. The problem is that in the presence of conventional catalysts such as AlCl3 instead of neatly adding repeated units of EO, PO onto the ring, you get a mess instead. I'm not talking about ring openings or reaction with the side chain, just addiiton of EO or PO chains to the ring itself in O and P positions. A useful process for producing a 1-alkyl, 2-polyalkoxy benzene material is worth a fortune.



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