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Author: Subject: Feasibility of climate- or weather-manipulation
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Feasibility of climate- or weather-manipulation

Since decades man has influenced wheather, on the small scale:
==> These days even some farmers are equipped with small rocketry for making away with cetrain types of ice-rain, that could ruin a crop ...

Classically the ingredient was silver-iodide ...
==> The mechanism, roughly spoken, ist to insert nucleation-seeds into the clouds which give the water opportunity enough to condense ... giving rain ...

The mentioned ice-rain (hail), with larger grains, will happen if the nucleation-conditions in the atmosphere prefer the mass-growth of relatively few grains ...
==> This gets prevented by artificially inserting the nano-Silver-iodide into the cloud: Many smaller grains grow, of undangerous size ... ... thereby no dangerous hail can come down ...

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That far it's the technology of maybe the 1960s or 1970s ...

Now: What is possible today ? Who has an idea about what is done ?

What could be done:
==> The silver-iodide could be activated by neutron-bombardment (thermal neutrons, http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~scidemos/QuantumRelativity/Neutr... ), giving short-lived isotopes ... : This would immensely enhance the effectiveness, since the radioactivity would produce far more nucleation-seeds ... principally like in a "cloud chamber" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_chamber

Maybe these days cheaper substances are available (silver around 500 €/kg), that could be sprayed from airplanes, 1 or 2 days in advance ... giving rain or dryness over an extended area ... ?

Since air-streams may be compared to eg. the marine gulf-stream, where something happening in the gulf of mexico can influence eg. the entirety of northern europe ...
==> ... maybe at certain points in the air-space there could be induced nucleation-seedin substances ... giving rain at some distance upstream ... and dryness at a greater distance upstrem ??

If such were possible, than it could be used to strategically influence the climate in regions ... ...

Anyone having any constructive/interesting ideas about that ?
==> What can be done ?
==> What might be actually taking place ?

[Edited on 4-8-2010 by chief]

[Edited on 4-8-2010 by chief]
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HAARP is the only thing which comes to mind

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China the world's biggest CO2 producer is coldest in 28 years
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9782973/China-...

www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/jan/08/cold-weather-in...

Of course you can argue global warming , if you only count the times
when it is hotter and ignore the times when it is not.

The Global warming solution in two posts

Come to think of it , the only thing really green about green ventures is the graft.
www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-02/why-did-train-carrying-bio...
" A cargo train filled with biofuels crossed the border between the US and Canada
24 times between the 15th of June and the 28th of June 2010; not once did it
unload its cargo, yet it still earned millions of dollars."
" Each time the loaded train crossed the border the cargo earned its owner a
certain amount of Renewable Identification Numbers (RINs), which were awarded
by the US EPA."
"12 million RINs from the 24 trips, worth between 50 cents and $1 each, which they can then sell on to oil companies that haven’t met the EPA’s renewable fuel requirements." Renewable fuels , a never ending source of government guaranteed revenue. www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/28/us-usa-defense-biofuels-i... Sure , why gas up the navy in Venezuela or the Middle East when you can manufacture fuel instead at$ 26 to $59 a gallon. What a racket , you or I would be shown the door before ever allowed to bid on that contract. No mention of how much additional CO2 it took to make it. www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2012/fueling-the-fleet-... " initial studies predict that jet fuel from seawater would cost in the range of$3 to \$6 per gallon to produce.
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Take it from me , that is absolute bullshit.

If it were up to me

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[Edited on 8-1-2013 by franklyn]
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 Quote: Originally posted by franklyn China the world's biggest CO2 producer is coldest in 28 years www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9782973/China-...

CO2 is a well-mixed gas; its thermal effects are global, not local, so there is no inherent connection between local emissions and temperature trends. In any case, you've only identified a temperature event, not a trend.

 Quote: Of course you can argue global warming , if you only count the times when it is hotter and ignore the times when it is not.

Huh?

Click around here for a bit; what exactly are you saying?
Tropospheric Temperature Time Series