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nikotyna1939
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formula for calculating amount of compressed gas

i want to know what is the formula for calculating amount of compressed gas at 25 Celsius and 100 bar inside 10 liter gas cylinder filled with methane, hydrogen and oxygen. also i mean how much cubic of gas can be filled inside the cylinder ,the purity is 100 percent and also each cylinder is separate gas not mixed

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to answer i need the partial pressure of each gas.
what's the percentage of each gas?

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 Quote: Originally posted by Ubya to answer i need the partial pressure of each gas. what's the percentage of each gas?

For a good estimate, this is not needed. Just multiply the pressure in ATM by the volume of the cylinder. In your case 100bar is about 99atm. 99atm*10L=990L of gas.
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 Quote: The general equation of state of an ideal gas that is used in partial pressure mixing, Boyle's law, states that the quantity (P*V) is a constant at constant temperature. This equation must be corrected to address the behavior of real gases under high pressure. Thus the expression: P1* V1 = P2* V2 needs a supplementary factor, the compressibility factor Z. If Z is less than 1 gases can be more easily compressed than gases with Z values greater than 1. The equation of state now becomes: (P1* V1) / Z1 = (P2* V2) / Z2 The Z value for oxygen at 165 bar (2400 psi) and 20°C is 0.941. Using the above equation, a gas cylinder with a volume of 5.7 liters (~40 ft3 @ 3000 psig) filled with oxygen to 165 bar would contain the equivalent of 999.5 liters of oxygen at 1 atmosphere instead of 940.5 liters calculated by the use of Boyle's law.

It's not a good estimate multiplying the volume at a certain pressure for the new pressure, it's not that simple, otherwise PV=nRT would be already more than enough for everything.
I thought nicotyna needed a better answer than "a bunch of gas"

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Don't calculate, or has been measured.

First hit when googling "pressure density gas methane graph"

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Doesn't it say in the original post that each gas is in separate cylinder? In which case I would think that PV = nRT would apply.
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 Quote: Originally posted by CharlieA Doesn't it say in the original post that each gas is in separate cylinder? In which case I would think that PV = nRT would apply.

edited his post, in the beginning it sounded like it was just one cylinder with a mixture of gases

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 Quote: Originally posted by CharlieA Doesn't it say in the original post that each gas is in separate cylinder? In which case I would think that PV = nRT would apply.

The ideal gas law starts to fall apart at low temperatures/high pressures where intermolecular forces become more significant. There are equations that accommodate for intermolecular forces (which I am not in the least bit qualified to talk about), but for more common gases like methane, hydrogen and oxygen it is often easier to look up a chart like the one Tsjerk linked to.

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