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[*] posted on 10-7-2020 at 12:29
Opening a lab on the Danube River


The Danube River is considered International Waters, therefore:

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International waters (high seas) do not belong to any State's jurisdiction, known under the doctrine of 'Mare liberum'. States have the right to fishing, navigation, overflight, laying cables and pipelines, as well as scientific research.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters

What happens if you buy a barge and open a lab on the barge, on the Danube River? Are you free to do any experiments you want on it?
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[*] posted on 10-7-2020 at 12:34


just remember that russia built an offshore nuclear power plant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_floating_nuclear_power...

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I'm French so excuse my language
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[*] posted on 10-7-2020 at 12:46


Well no one is going to tell the Russians what they can and can't do. Or maybe people will try, but Russia is big enough to ignore the complaints and defend their sovereignty if necessary.

For an amateur scientist having to deal with a legal paperwork instead of getting on with enjoying science, opening a lab in International Waters sounds very attractive.
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[*] posted on 10-7-2020 at 23:37


Many countries have legislation that allows prosecution for overseas matters as if they were punishable in the country, unless they are legal in the target country or the perpetrator is charged overseas for the matter (ne bis in idem). So, driving a barge to international waters and cooking drugs and explosives there will likely lead to prosecution. Usually there is a clause that it is also a crime in the other country. A loophole here could be to register a ship or travel through a country where it is legal to perform the intended act. It is a public secret that wealthy people go around with their yachts, skipping most regulations, and even if something happened, good luck proving it. An entire business of cruise shipping industry is built around flag nations where gambling and other stuff is minimally regulated.

On the other hand, if a person has resources to fund such an operation, they can much more easily just establish a company and get the formal licenses for mostly everything. In where I live, it's not that hard to get license even for handling highly radioactive materials for commercial use. And then there is that option if you really got the funds that you just establish a chain of overseas holdings and acquire property and just do almost whatever you want. If you happen to get a knock on your door for ex ordering something that triggers some flags, there's nothing at your home, because your lab is located in somewhere that no paper trail leads from you so no one knows where to search. It's seldom the lab that gets people busted, it's distributing whatever's made in it, and if it's a hobby, you ain't intending to do that, right?
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