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Shulgis Laboratory
.....this was posted by Loft a Vespiary member and wanted to share with members here......solo
Click here: https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=Z93pXf9jiWK
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This is so cool. Thanks for sharing!
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RAD! My boss has one of those those cameras... Although he's only used it on homes for sale. I'd wage none as cool as that lab. It's pretty fun
watching a matterport camera work for the first time.
Thanks for sharing a 3D view of complete awesome. Amazing detail.
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Thanks for sharing
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This is really cool indeed.
How not to store chemicals  !
What a collection!
To my suprise there is no fumehood, just one exhaust fan.
Quite remarkable for such a well stocked lab.
I am also still dependant on a gasmask but that is certainly the first thing that has got to change, annoying and tiresome to walk around with.
[Edited on 18-8-2021 by Belowzero]
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Wow! Incredible lab, especially the rotovap and schlenk line
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Amazing indeed !
There are some unusual and fun items in that lab 
I love the huge frame for setting up whatever assembly you could dream of.
The sink needs some cleaning though !
The spirit of adventure was upon me. Having nitric acid and copper, I had only to learn what the words 'act upon' meant. - Ira Remsen
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Since I will need to move my lab in the near future I was looking for inspiration and I gotta say that such a large frame with both sides accesible is
definetely something to adopt.
Perhaps a sink in one of the table tops would finish it up.
Looking around it also reminds me how much skill apart from chemistry is required such as plumbing, engineer, electrical, electronics etc.
Truly a versatile hobby.
Very entertaining to go over all the details in this lab.
[Edited on 18-8-2021 by Belowzero]
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Thank You. A walk to remember.
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Quote: Originally posted by Belowzero  | Since I will need to move my lab in the near future I was looking for inspiration and I gotta say that such a large frame with both sides accesible is
definetely something to adopt.
Perhaps a sink in one of the table tops would finish it up.
Looking around it also reminds me how much skill apart from chemistry is required such as plumbing, engineer, electrical, electronics etc.
Truly a versatile hobby. |
This is why I love this hobby. I wish I had a lab of my own like that, I only would need the space. What I see missing is a good fume hood and
ventilation, which I consider must, because many reactions just produce gaseous side products or are so smelly, toxic or both that you really want to
suck them out. A difference between gas chamber and a lab can be very small.
Also, I would make a lot more shelf space to free table space, because all of the tables are literally loaded with stuff, even though useful. To be
honest, I would call that an enthusiastic meth shack if I wouldn't know better, as it appears to me very unprofessional to store bottles around
floors, loaded tables and stuff like that.
I sound like bitching, what I don't, but personally I like it clean, tidy and in order. Many times when babysitting reactions I actually clean my lab
and set everything straight and in order just because I'm bored, and then it looks very neat.
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That was my thought too.
Also what I thought.
Now I also look at this, no fume hood and minimal ventilation lots of narcotics and he still lived to be 88 years old, he was doing something right,
maybe the well made drugs clean out the toxins lol
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I did a quick Google and there are quite a few photos of him in his lab too, kinda neat seeing the photos and being able to walk through the lab.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fyndium | | What I see missing is a good fume hood and ventilation, which I consider must, because many reactions just produce gaseous side products or are so
smelly, toxic or both that you really want to suck them out. A difference between gas chamber and a lab can be very small. |
Consider that his lab was in a shed on his property and not in the house, and combined with the relatively mild climate throghout the year in this
part of the states, I figure it might have been just as good to simply open all the doors/windows in the lab and let a mild breeze flow through.
And considered some of the substances he used quite often, e.g. oxalyl chloride, SOCl2 or POCl3 in Tihkal for example, one of them is used in the
preparation of every single compound in that book, and all of them are quite obnoxious, corrosive and unhealthy.
Guess, if you're used to this, it could probably be easier.
His lab was, so to say, almost halfway outside.
They must have been quite used over the time to that working space, him, Nichols and whoever joined them at that.... or... have they even done all the
work at Shulgins place?
Or, maybe Nichols got his own homelab too.... they worked together in Shulgin's lab after all.... and Nichols is one of the handful of people who also
managed to obtain such a DEA-license, up until today if I'm not mistaken.
Maybe thats where some of the magic happened too?
Maybe that hypothetical lab is better equipped?
It probably hasn't even existed back then, considered how young Nichols was at that point... if it even exists now?
Doesn't matter actually, its just distracting
The point I wanted to get at, is, everyone who ever had the opportunity to do chemistry outside or similar likewise halfway protected, will understand
that this can be a quite effective way to dissipate some nasty clouds very quickly.
And consequentially, when I had an opportunity to work outside and took it, I tended to do things I probably wouldn't even have done with a fume hood
on the inside.
With a fume hood, you are of course better protected, but compared with simply ripping all the doors in the lab open, even with just a mellow wind
blowing, you can't dilute any gasses as quickly when its in the fume hood.
Especially in case you need to access whats inside the fumehood....
Maybe thats why he doesn't had one?
Or, maybe he even had one and has gotten rid of it, because he considered it impractical with the lab at such a location?
Thats what I would say.
It would probably be different if the lab would have been located inside another building, like most labs everywhere are.
As said, I guess its not really required in a shed like this, or maybe it was rather due to the long experience and good working practice, while being
used to the work in that place, that a fume hood didn't seemed neccessary to him(or better, them, including the few others who worked with him in
there on occassion)?
It looks comfy and like a nice working space I would enjoy to do stuff in
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Good point.
Ultimately my dream home lab would be in a shed a little ways from my house. One never expects a fire but if one breaks out and the fire suppression
system fails or is insufficient for the fire, you don't want it to spread to your house. I would want it a little larger than what Shulgin had. Though
I would be more than satisfied with his lab.
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Thanks Solo.
As far as the "cleanliness" of the lab and oh horror no fume hood, well, genius is as genius does I guess. Not that I'm a genius but I could be at
home in there. Y'all HAVE seen some of my photos, right?
*edit* for folks unfamiliar with Dr. Sasha......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYlAuf-3t0g
[Edited on 8-20-2021 by arkoma]
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Great stuff!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Syn the Sizer | [
Now I also look at this, no fume hood and minimal ventilation lots of narcotics and he still lived to be 88 years old, he was doing something right,
maybe the well made drugs clean out the toxins lol |
Apparently all the scientists who worked with plutonium on the Manhattan project lived well into there eighties
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| Quote: Originally posted by draculic acid69 | | Quote: Originally posted by Syn the Sizer | | Now I also look at this, no fume hood and minimal ventilation lots of narcotics and he still lived to be 88 years old, he was doing something right,
maybe the well made drugs clean out the toxins lol |
Apparently all the scientists who worked with plutonium on the Manhattan project lived well into there eighties |
It's the dose that makes the poison, and it helps to know what is dangerous. If he worked like me, he was controlling his breath a lot and going out
for a snack whenever anything had to be vented.
A window fan can help a lot to at least clear the lab so it can be reentered sooner. I don't know if that little desk fan seen here could be fitted in
the window. He wouldn't leave it there all the time for the sake of security. Actually, security was my first thought when I saw the lab - I would
have worried, with the publication of his books, about the lab being a target for theft. Fortunately the people interested in theft and the people
interested in psychedelics tend to be different crowds.
[Edited on 27-8-2021 by Jenks]
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