specialactivitieSK
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Thermite Cutting Torch
I tried to make a Thermite Cutting Torch from patent https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2003006198A1/en
From the patent :
Preferably is a powder composition which comprises by weight from about 15% to 20% aluminum, from about 78% to 85% CuO, from about 1% to 3% SiC, and
from about 0.2% to 4% nitrocellulose. The composition of the powder in the thermite charge 14 more preferably may include parts by weight about 16% to
18% aluminum, about 80% to 83% CuO, about 1% to 2% SiC, and about 0.5% to 2% nitrocellulose.
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used :
CuO : 80 %
Al : 16 %
NC : 4 % (from smokeless powder : NC 60%, DeGDN 35% )
(12.6%N)
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Visco fuse with vesuvit dont ignited the composition. Than I used sparkle from the top. Better would by the other side.
The result was a explosion.
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Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhrmw_C_w8
[Edited on 21-8-2021 by specialactivitieSK]
[Edited on 21-8-2021 by specialactivitieSK]
[Edited on 21-8-2021 by specialactivitieSK]
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Johnny Cappone
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Thermite based on CuO and aluminum is known to be especially explosive. In fact, it is used as an alternative to explosive targets in shooting
practice. A .22lr shot is enough to detonate it. I believe that adding nitrocellulose would only make the mixture even more sensitive.
By the way, you got a nice explosion in the video. I would say this is a pretty ineffective mixture to use in a cutting torch, unless the intent is to
cut the space between your palm and fingers
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XeonTheMGPony
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Thermite when used for that purpose needs very high loading pressures. he must have had a air pocket some where.
NC acts to cool the burn, not sensitize
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JohnDoe13
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http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=22599#...
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Brightthermite
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Ive read that Barium nitrate is used in some of the cutting compositions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermate
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Exactly what I was thinking. Consolidation pressures for thermite cutters are very high. To give you an idea, a rod cutting torch I make is pressed at
4 to 4.5 tons of pressure on a hydraulic press.
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specialactivitieSK
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This looks simple : Breach Pen
https://youtu.be/3Cuu8tG4wLM
Fire Pen
https://youtu.be/m5v__1Od4wA
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specialactivitieSK
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TEC Torch. It looks they use pellets. Thats better for pressing.
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Make sense. Barium nitrate is what is used in sparklers IIRC, and they burn pretty much as I would want a cutting torch to burn.
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Wow. Almost as fast as a battery powered angle grinder...
We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.
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Thermic Lancing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt4v-vulKpEThermic Lancing
KClO4 + Mg = KCl + MgO + 1.5 O2
2 Fe + 1.5 O2 = Fe2O3
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specialactivitieSK
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Portable metal cutting pyrotechnic torch 1800°C
US20030145752A1
CuO : 46%
Cu2O : 31%
NaClO3 : 12%
Aluminium : 11%
Binder 1%
Component are smaller than 10 mikrometer
Binder : 0-6%
Polyethylene glycol or Polyurethane polymer and epoxy curing agent.
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thermite cutting charges have been used but thats very controversial, iirc it was a barium composition, thermate?
instead of CuO+Al, maybe MgAl+Fe2O3
i believe the trick is to use the right particle size
depending on actual grainsize you wanna modify it maybe with an oil or something that prevents it from shooting through the air inbetween the granules
the first thing you mentioned.... i think they added nitrocellulose as a binder, not just dry powder
i remember a thread on here where a man mentioned he had a cup of some CuO Al mixture with NC, supposedly dinitrate, he had about 30 grammes of it and
ignited it by fuse- it ended up detonating, i could never replicate this. engine oil should work, its made of non-corrosive oil which you wanna keep
in check if youre using easily corroded metals
i can get you chunks of MgAl50 if you wanna play around with mesh size
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I can confirm that if used as a binder it'll slow burning.
Tried that in a tin can with NC dissolved in acetone "just to see what would happen".
I remember it being so slow it was really unimpressive.
The spirit of adventure was upon me. Having nitric acid and copper, I had only to learn what the words 'act upon' meant. - Ira Remsen
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yes but try taking some NC and put in aluminium foil and slowly heat it from the outside, it will detonate eventually.
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There is a tool called a thermic lance that is used to cut holes in very thick solid steel.
These are used when making holes in bank vault doors and similar very thick steel items.
They consist of a steel pipe about 15mm OD with strands of solid steel wire inside and in the absolute centre a single magnesium strand.
The back end of the pipe is connected to a oxygen flask (and regulator) and the front end is lit by a cutting torch.
The manesium and steel burns very hot when in a oxygen stream.
When the steel and magnesium starts to burn the lance is pushed through the bank vault door with molten steel pouring out the hole.
These thermic lances are able to make a holes in a half meter solid steel doors.
Maybe it isnt what you are looking for but is kind of related and quite intresting.
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