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[*] posted on 2-2-2023 at 05:32
Zinc voltammetry: some problems


I want to develop a method for voltammetric determination of a well known metal. I started off using the Daniell cell as a model:

$$Zn(s) | Zn^{2+}(aq) || Cu^{2+}(aq,sat) | Cu(s)$$

I built a Daniell cell with a CuSO4/Cu reference electrode (about 7 mL electrolyte), 50 mL anodic compartment and used a plate of 99% Zn as anode. Stock solutions (but not standardised) of ZnSO4 were prepared as 'analytes'.

Problems with reproducibility and time to equilibrium forced me to scale everything down, with a RE of about 1.5 mL and an anodic compartment volume of about 5 mL: [see next post]

I also tried stirring and flushing with Ar welding gas but neither made any difference.

With this configuration I measured the EMF (at 19 C) for five Zn2+ stock solutions and their replica.

With Nernst we get:

$$\color{red} {\underbrace{E=E° -\dfrac{0.059}{n} \log_{10} \gamma [Zn^{2+}]}_{\text{Applicable at only 298K}}} \label{Nernst Short}$$

The following picture says more than a thousand words:

EMF LR.png - 15kB

The problems are:

* poor reproducibility
* long equilibrium times: 10 mins or longer.

Both the intercept and the slope are in the right ballpark.





[Edited on 2-2-2023 by blogfast25]




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[*] posted on 2-2-2023 at 05:35


Cell and electrodes:


IMG_20230202_115551_273 (1).jpg - 59kB IMG_20230202_110156_968 (1).jpg - 54kB



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[*] posted on 7-2-2023 at 11:28


It is possible that the zinc plate is covered on oxide and should be polished? (from your pictures)

(once I tried to check for zinc on a zinc plate with CuSO4 solution (it contained another reagent - cannot recall which was. The test for zinc,is to get a black spot when you add a drop of the solution on zinc)

I know for sure that it was Zinc but the test did not work (no black spot)
When I polished the Zinc, the test was succesful (black spot)


so maybe oxide maybe is interfering? (wearing of on each test, so different results)

Note: I do not have knowledge of Voltammetry.





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[*] posted on 7-2-2023 at 11:28


It is possible that the zinc plate is covered on oxide and should be polished? (from your pictures)

(once I tried to check for zinc on a zinc plate with CuSO4 solution (it contained another reagent - cannot recall which was. The test for zinc,is to get a black spot when you add a drop of the solution on zinc)

I know for sure that it was Zinc but the test did not work (no black spot)
When I polished the Zinc, the test was succesful (black spot)


so maybe oxide maybe is interfering? (wearing of on each test, so different results)

Note: I do not have knowledge of Voltammetry.





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[*] posted on 7-2-2023 at 12:25


What is your separator?
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[*] posted on 11-2-2023 at 05:43


Are you sure that this is voltammetry? It look like potentiometry to me. If I understand it correctly, you just measured how potential changed with decreasing Zn2+ concentration. If you want to do voltammetry, you must apply changing pontential and measure change in current.

https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Analytical_Chemistry...

Nice experiment though. Do you consider use similar setup for potentiometric titration?
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[*] posted on 11-2-2023 at 09:01


Quote: Originally posted by Bedlasky  
Are you sure that this is voltammetry? It look like potentiometry to me.
Nice experiment though. Do you consider use similar setup for potentiometric titration?


Voltammetry/potentiometry... you know? :D:D:D

No, it's potentiometry, definitely. :P

I wanted to use the setup for standard addition and titration methods but with such poor reproducibility that's out of the question.

I'm now waiting for an Ag/AgCl ref. electrode, maybe it will give better results?



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[*] posted on 11-2-2023 at 09:03


Quote: Originally posted by RU_KLO  
It is possible that the zinc plate is covered on oxide and should be polished? (from your pictures)




I clean the Zinc plate by dunking it into 2 M HCl for 5', prior to a run of measurements. Bubbles of H2 then occur. So oxide cannot be the problem.

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[*] posted on 11-2-2023 at 09:04


Quote: Originally posted by Cathoderay  
What is your separator?


An Aga agar gel, 1 M NaCl, at the bottom of the Cu ref. electrode.




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[*] posted on 24-2-2023 at 10:52


The new Ag/AgCl reference electrode has arrived:

IMG_20230224_174815_347.jpg - 41kB

So the experiment above was repeated, albeit with a slightly better grade of ZnSO4.

The results were very much similar to the first run:

* reproducibility was slightly better but not brilliant
* equilibrium times remained long: 5 mins and longer

The slope was -8.2+/-2.2 mV when acc. Nernst (see above) it should be about 28 mV. I can't explain the discrepancy. The lower slope means of course reduced sensitivity.


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