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[*] posted on 29-2-2024 at 21:14
Solvents for Lithium Hydride


I'm trying to deprotonate the indole nitrogen and subsequently alkylate the nitrogen. I have some LiH which I think should work for deprotonating indole.

However, I'm having a lot of trouble finding a solvent that will properly dissolve the Lithium hydride and the indole.

The only thing I cam across so far in the literature is DMF. But due to its high boiling point I would rather avoid it...

Do you know of any other solvents (with might work for this but which can more easily be removed aster the reaction is complete?


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[*] posted on 29-2-2024 at 21:36


I suspect your first reaction isn't going to work, as you're trying to do Sn2 on a tertiary alkyl halide. You're much more likely to get elimination.

For the second one, does the LiH need to dissolve very much? It might work just as a suspension in, say, THF.

(Disclaimer- not really an organic chemist.)




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[*] posted on 29-2-2024 at 21:38


There are no soluble saline hydrides in any solvents. LiH is always used heterogeneous. And yeah I don't think you can attach a tetr-buryl like that.



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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 05:03


Quote: Originally posted by Monoamine  
Do you know of any other solvents (with might work for this but which can more easily be removed aster the reaction is complete?

The only two solvents that I can remember are DMF, which you want to avoid, and DMSO, which has an even higher boiling point. Other solvents may promote the alkylation of C3 rather than N.

My suggestion is use DMF or DMSO and then vacuum distill it afterwards. Any indole you synthesize will boil some 70°C above the solvent anyway.

There's this paper: Chemoselective N-Acylation of Indoles and Oxazolidinones with Carbonylazoles. I know it is about acylation but maybe you can adapt something from it or from its references.

By the way, why are you interested in alkylating the indole? Just for fun or is it college stuff?

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