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[*] posted on 4-8-2024 at 16:10
Bromide in chlorate cell?


I recently constructed a sodium bromate cell and it went much better than I thought it would (video).
I next want to try a sodium chlorate cell, but it seems one of the problems a chlorate cell has that a bromate cell doesn’t is the release of chlorine.
Would adding a small amount of bromide help prevent this? My idea is that any chlorine produced would immediately react with bromide to form bromine which would stay in solution. The bromine would react with sodium hydroxide to re-form bromide.

Would this work, or would the bromide all convert to bromate and be useless?




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[*] posted on 4-8-2024 at 17:23


Let's see. The chlorine released reacts with bromide to make bromine. Bromine reacts with sodium hydroxide to form bromide and hypobromite. Hypobromite disproportionates into bromide and bromate. You have a bromide-bromine cycle that converts eventually all bromide to bromate.

What happens when chlorine reacts with bromate?




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[*] posted on 8-8-2024 at 14:07


Quote: Originally posted by bnull  
What happens when chlorine reacts with bromate?

That is my main question. My best guess is chloride, bromine, and oxygen, with possibly some chlorate.




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[*] posted on 30-8-2024 at 11:11



According to Woelen here:
https://woelen.homescience.net/science/chem/exps/miniature_c...

bromide will dissolve Ti if using a Ti current runner or Ti is exposed to the liquid.
See near the bottom of the page.

You can make bromate using a lead dioxide anode (and Pt too I suppose).
Bromate from Bromide here:

http://www.chlorates.exrockets.com/further/bromates.pdf
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