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[*] posted on 25-7-2025 at 18:20
Were to get Polyisobutene and Dioctylsebacetat in Europe


Because both chemicals are basically industry exclusive and I cant find any european chemical vendor selling those under 200l barrels. Chinese sellers are also not an really good option, there expensive asf just like with PIB tape. DOS on the otherhand is nowere availble. Rat glue also isnt a good option because its either toxic or has contamination.I wonder were to get those chemicals, I especially will use those for plastisizing explosives, because I dont want to handle and store pure RDX. I have around 2 kg RDX I want to plastisize. I also dont want to just use pib and mineral oil because plastisizing them is a pretty big mess and consistency isnt pretty good.
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[*] posted on 26-7-2025 at 07:58


U could blow up a building with that RDX :D . Are you asking starter material for C4?

[Edited on 26-7-2025 by Radiums Lab]




Water is dangerous if you don't know how to handle it, elemental fluorine (F₂) on the other hand is pretty tame if you know what you are doing.
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[*] posted on 27-7-2025 at 04:55


Quote: Originally posted by Radiums Lab  
U could blow up a building with that RDX :D . Are you asking starter material for C4?

[Edited on 26-7-2025 by Radiums Lab]

Yeah I detonated a few big charges of tnt and Ammoniumnitrate and other fun stuff, I have 2kg RDX laying around in my lab, and because I hate to use non melt casted stuff or plastic explosives I want to convert it in C4
Here a detonation I attempted:
https://imgur.com/a/94tUzsL
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[*] posted on 27-7-2025 at 08:17


If you want the DOS, you need to know if you are getting bis(2-ethylhexyl) sebacate or Di-n-octyl sebacate. Most suppliers will carry both, and both will have different properties. Dioctyl Adipate, or even pelargonate esters can work equally well if adjusted to mix in proportion to your PIB as alternatives. Those might be easier to source.

In my experience though, the DOS or any fancy plasticizer is unnecessary. High viscosity motor oil or bar and chain oil will work better.

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[*] posted on 27-7-2025 at 15:03


Quote: Originally posted by dettoo456  
If you want the DOS, you need to know if you are getting bis(2-ethylhexyl) sebacate or Di-n-octyl sebacate. Most suppliers will carry both, and both will have different properties. Dioctyl Adipate, or even pelargonate esters can work equally well if adjusted to mix in proportion to your PIB as alternatives. Those might be easier to source.

In my experience though, the DOS or any fancy plasticizer is unnecessary. High viscosity motor oil or bar and chain oil will work better.


Yeah, I usually did rat glue with mineral oil and the consistency was shit it detonted tho buz consistency isnt good
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