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[*] posted on 1-8-2011 at 10:08
Fe2O3 question?


i was trying to make some Fe2O3 by heating the iron (III) hydroxide..
And it doesnt have familiar red color:
If someone can answer why i would appreciate...

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[*] posted on 1-8-2011 at 11:49


The colour of Fe2O3 is usually describes as 'red to brown'. That's what you've got. The exact colour depends on factors like heat and time of calcination and granulometry of product. Yours look just fine, trust me.
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[*] posted on 2-8-2011 at 06:42


It doesn't take a whole lot of hematite impurity to turn red to brown.
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[*] posted on 2-8-2011 at 08:11


Quote: Originally posted by watson.fawkes  
It doesn't take a whole lot of hematite impurity to turn red to brown.


Hmmm... correct in 'theory' BUT:

I've heated crude "Fe(OH)2.nH2O" in a saucepan in open air, guestimated to about 500 C: any Fe (II) quickly oxidises to Fe(III) in air, especially when heated strongly. I obtained a nice red (with perhaps a hint of brown) Fe2O3.

Let him heat his product somewhat higher and longer. My prediction is that it'll turn more reddish.
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[*] posted on 2-8-2011 at 08:51


i heated it to pretty high temp. it was kinda red in begining but turned brown leter.



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[*] posted on 2-8-2011 at 11:00


Quote: Originally posted by Megamarko94  
i heated it to pretty high temp. it was kinda red in begining but turned brown leter.
If you were using an iron crucible, I'd have to guess that the metallic Fe started to reduce your oxide a bit. At some point, high temperature will cause reduction faster than atmospheric oxygen can reoxidize it.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2011 at 07:45


I had the same problem when I tried to make some iron oxide. This is due to the fact that you've created a mixture of iron 2 and 3 oxide. Iron 2 oxide is black and iron 3 oxide is red. Over several weeks, this powder should change into a nice red colour. If you want to speed things up, mix with some tap water and blow air into it. I personally think it's not worth the trouble.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2011 at 08:39


Quote: Originally posted by White Yeti  
I had the same problem when I tried to make some iron oxide. This is due to the fact that you've created a mixture of iron 2 and 3 oxide. Iron 2 oxide is black and iron 3 oxide is red. Over several weeks, this powder should change into a nice red colour. If you want to speed things up, mix with some tap water and blow air into it. I personally think it's not worth the trouble.


Actually, if you do have a mix of ferrous and ferric you're creating some hematite (Fe3O4). See also the preparation of ferrofluids...
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[*] posted on 5-8-2011 at 12:22


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Iron_oxide_pigments

Quote: Originally posted by blogfast25  
The colour of Fe2O3 is usually describes as 'red to brown'. That's what you've got. The exact colour depends on factors like heat and time of calcination and granulometry of product...


I've prepared a bunch of samples of Fe2O3 from the same oxide sources and had numerous variations in color from tiny variations in preparation. Grinding bright red oxide some times darkens it, sometimes grinding dark oxide brightens it. A little Mn or C contamination darkens it considerably.

Weigh a sample of iron, convert it to a hydroxide then roast it and weigh the product. when the weight matches 2Fe 3O clap and try not to think about the color.
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