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[*] posted on 2-10-2002 at 10:05
camphor peroxide


hello everyone i'm a french pyro.
i'am 19, i leave nearby to paris.
my question: is it possible to make camphor peroxide ?
acetone is a keton
MEK is a keton
and camphor as well so why not.
sorry, i speak not very well english !:(
thank you for your answer.
PS in french there is only one forum "pyro"

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[*] posted on 2-10-2002 at 10:18


I think that it is possible to make camphor peroxide. But I may be wrong as my chemistry isnt all that good.
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[*] posted on 2-10-2002 at 11:14


I've thought of it in the past, but when you look at the structure of camphor you'll see that the OB would suck, and I think the peroxide would be even less stable than most, if preparable.
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[*] posted on 3-10-2002 at 13:30


You should test to oxidize synthetic camphor to form a peroxide or a hydroperoxide.

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[*] posted on 20-10-2002 at 17:17
I doubt its


going to work. Camphor ain't soluble in H2O. I don't think peroxidation works well in alcohol, and if you use acetone, you'll end up with AP. But as of now an alcohol soln is worth a try. Although if you boil camphor in conc HNO3, you will probably get nitro camphor or something which you can again try to peroxidize.
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[*] posted on 23-10-2002 at 02:28
Camphor


Camphor are a very varied usable compound.

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[*] posted on 1-5-2004 at 12:38
Does exist camphor peroxide?


Hallo,
I'm doing a research about the ketone camphor and I need to know if it can formate peroxides. If anyone can help me, saying yes or no and, if yes, the equation.......this time Google haven't helped me.

Thanx :(
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[*] posted on 27-7-2004 at 19:59
terpene peroxides


If it is unsaturated (with a C=C double bond), a terpene should certainly be capable of forming a peroxide. Camphor (which contains a keto group) does not meet this requirement, but camphene, which contains a C=CH2 group, does.

An example is cineole, a major constituent of eucalyptus oil, which is a naturally occurring terpene peroxide, and indeed probably largely responsible for its antiseptic properties. I believe it, or a similar compound, occurs in teatree oil (either melaleuca (Australia) or leptospermum (New Zealand) oil), which is also antiseptic. I remember reading somewhere that an industrial process for manufacturing hydrogen peroxide was, and may still be, based upon the synthesis and reaction of a terpene peroxide.

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[*] posted on 28-7-2004 at 13:25


The discussion on camphor peroxide indicated that it would suck as an explosive and that it would be difficult to make, but that doesn't rule it out.

Acetone is a bit short on carbon-carbon double bonds, but I hear it forms a peroxide.
IIRC tea tree oil is largely terpineol; it might be possible to replace the OH with OOH but it wouldn't really be on- topic.

Last time I checked, the industrial production of hydrogen peroxide used the oxidation and reduction of a substituted anthraquinone.
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