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[*] posted on 13-6-2012 at 10:25
Purchase of sodium bromide


IIRC, NaBr can be purchased cheaply as a swimming pool brominating agent - 'bromine base' - as a substitute for chlorine.

From what I've heard, it is readily available in the US and it is sold in 'The Range' department shop here in the UK.

[Edited on 14-6-2012 by ScienceSquirrel]




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[*] posted on 13-6-2012 at 11:25
Purchase of sodium bromide


Quote: Originally posted by Hexavalent  
IIRC, NaBr can be purchased cheaply as a swimming pool brominating agent - 'bromine base' - as a substitute for chlorine.

From what I've heard, it is readily available in the US and it is sold in 'The Range' department shop here in the UK.


I don't think that's true.
Bromine has limited usage - in spas, and there it's used in an expensive organic form (1-Bromo-3-chloro-5, 5-dimethylhydantoin), just like chlorine is used attached to cyanuric acid.

I've actually tried to look for the bromide just about in every large pool supply store and there isn't any, simply because it's not used for pools.

My opinion is that the neccessity of usage of BCDMH in pools is artificial and inflated. Chlorine is enough and it's fine, but one day someone came with the idea for bromine and started advertising against "baaaaad chlorine". Because "chlorine is bad, it's poisonous". People suck on that.

But bromide? Where, for god sake? I want that, too.




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[*] posted on 13-6-2012 at 11:47


IIRC Bromine is preferred to chlorine because of high temperature of spas, and also for people with allergy to chlorine.
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[*] posted on 13-6-2012 at 11:54


Sodium bromide can be purchased at eBay for US and Canada people:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bromine-Generator-salt-crystals-sodi...

This is a very low price. Over here in NL I have to pay EUR 4 or so per 100 gram.




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[*] posted on 14-6-2012 at 02:12


Quote: Originally posted by woelen  
Sodium bromide can be purchased at eBay for US and Canada people:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bromine-Generator-salt-crystals-sodi...

This is a very low price. Over here in NL I have to pay EUR 4 or so per 100 gram.


It's almost 3.5 € per 100 g in CRO, plus shipping. Analytical grade is all you can get. It's not very expensive, but on the other hand, it's not cheap at all for something that is produced on a large scale.

I suppose the shipping of the salt from your link from USA wouldn't be a viable solution, considering the purity.




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[*] posted on 14-6-2012 at 03:44


The link I provided is intended for people in the USA or Canada. Shipping over the ocean most likely will be very expensive, probably two times the cost of the chemical itself.

Here is a link for EU-based members:

http://www.crystalgrowing-shop.com/shop/category_15/Chemikal...

1 kg of NaBr for EUR 23.80

I ordered from this place, together with other chemicals. He also sells NaBrO3, moderate purity, intended for crystal growing:

http://www.crystalgrowing-shop.com/shop/article_026/Natriumb...

With these two chemicals together and some acid you can make a lot of Br2. You need NaBr and NaBrO3 in a 5 : 1 molar ratio.

[Edited on 14-6-12 by woelen]




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[*] posted on 14-6-2012 at 07:18


Quote: Originally posted by woelen  
The link I provided is intended for people in the USA or Canada. Shipping over the ocean most likely will be very expensive, probably two times the cost of the chemical itself.

Here is a link for EU-based members:

http://www.crystalgrowing-shop.com/shop/category_15/Chemikal...

1 kg of NaBr for EUR 23.80

I ordered from this place, together with other chemicals. He also sells NaBrO3, moderate purity, intended for crystal growing:

http://www.crystalgrowing-shop.com/shop/article_026/Natriumb...

With these two chemicals together and some acid you can make a lot of Br2. You need NaBr and NaBrO3 in a 5 : 1 molar ratio.

[Edited on 14-6-12 by woelen]


Interesting link, woelen. Never heard of these chaps before...




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[*] posted on 14-6-2012 at 11:20


I have seen a spa product called Brom Start, it's only listed ingredient is NaBr

Closest source I could find was online in BC, $25 for a couple kg in a small pail. The manufacturer HTH shows small 56g pouches but I haven't been able to find a local store that carries them.

http://www.poolgeek.com/HTH-Spa-Brom-Start-P3887.aspx
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[*] posted on 14-6-2012 at 12:32


i purchase mine from a spa and pool supplier named leissure time . i think its a canadian company that sale a 1 lb container of sodium bromide for pretty cheap on ebay...
but impossible to find it at wal mart !




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[*] posted on 14-6-2012 at 12:36


Quote: Originally posted by Endimion17  
Quote: Originally posted by Hexavalent  
IIRC, NaBr can be purchased cheaply as a swimming pool brominating agent - 'bromine base' - as a substitute for chlorine.

From what I've heard, it is readily available in the US and it is sold in 'The Range' department shop here in the UK.


I don't think that's true.
Bromine has limited usage - in spas, and there it's used in an expensive organic form (1-Bromo-3-chloro-5, 5-dimethylhydantoin), just like chlorine is used attached to cyanuric acid.


NaBr certainly is used in spas, at least here in the US. I've bought 4 oz pouches from Leslie's Pool Supply quite easily - they also sell it online in larger quantities.
It claims to be solely NaBr, and I've used it to make bromine water before. I never tried to determine the actual purity, though.
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[*] posted on 14-6-2012 at 15:22


What MrHomeScientist said about Leslie's Pool and I'll add that NaBr is also available at my local Lowe's. IIRC, Walmart sells the organic variety as opposed to NaBr.

I know this doesn't really help the UK people much... :/

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[*] posted on 15-6-2012 at 06:24


Quote: Originally posted by neptunium  
i purchase mine from a spa and pool supplier named leissure time . i think its a canadian company that sale a 1 lb container of sodium bromide for pretty cheap on ebay...
but impossible to find it at wal mart !


Not true. Visit walmart.ca and search SpaCare.
It is a cylindric bottle filled with a solution of NaBr. It is 1 L. Cost 8.96$.

I had estimated that it has 150 g of NaBr. A very very rough estimate.

I searched Canadian Tire as well and they don't have NaBr (not solution and not solid).
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[*] posted on 16-8-2015 at 19:09


This is sodium bromide manufacturer in China, we export sodium bromide to many countries, we manufacture 99.5% sodium bromide, if anyone need the product, you can contact me, my email is: sophie@reanochem.com
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[*] posted on 16-8-2015 at 19:16
sell sodium bromide


Reano Chemical Corp. is a sodium bromide manufacturer in China. We manufacture 99.5 sodium bromide, the quality of our sodium bromide is very good. If anyone want to import the sodium bromide, you can contact us. If you have a chance to come to China, welcome to visit our company.

My email is: sophie@reanochem.com
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[*] posted on 16-8-2015 at 21:43


how much per kg?



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[*] posted on 17-8-2015 at 01:48


I purchased mine at Canadian Tire in Sudbury Ontario for 9.99 for 1000 grams and it is a powder. I have seen it here in Hamilton also, but not lately. Cheap and 99.5 percent pure. Anyone want to trade for some potassium permanganate?

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[*] posted on 17-8-2015 at 04:57


If anyone is still looking for this, U2U me and I'll see if I can find some and get it to you. No cost, just trying to help someone out that might need it.
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[*] posted on 17-8-2015 at 06:21


In some countries, bromides are still OTC medicines and can be bought at a drugstore.
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[*] posted on 18-8-2015 at 13:55


Is it that hard to get Bromides in the US :o ? Here in Germany that's no problem at all. I went to a local pharmacy and ordered a bottle of it. I've heard some people talk about the problem with a usefull Bromide source but I didn't know that it isn't sold in the US. And is there a reason for it ?
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[*] posted on 18-8-2015 at 16:28


I bought 4 pounds of sodium bromide at a pool supply store for ~$20. I'm happy to sell small amounts of it to anyone interested for the price that I bought it for, as it's quite a bit more than I need.



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[*] posted on 18-8-2015 at 16:33


It does not seem to be readily available OTC in Australia. Unless someone can point me to a source that I have overlooked. I think that argenscientific has the best price that I have seen from local chem suppliers.

Quote: Originally posted by sodiumbromide  
Reano Chemical Corp. is a sodium bromide manufacturer in China. We manufacture 99.5 sodium bromide, the quality of our sodium bromide is very good. If anyone want to import the sodium bromide, you can contact us. If you have a chance to come to China, welcome to visit our company.

My email is: sophie@reanochem.com

I have had some feedback from the contact at ReanoChem. It seems that they are interested in supplying at higher volumes than I would typically use. I have a few hundred grams to keep me going for a while.
Making Br2 is one of my favourites. :Þ


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[*] posted on 18-8-2015 at 16:44


what was the qty/price j_sum?



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[*] posted on 18-8-2015 at 21:10


Ok, I got some sodium bromide (99%), not sure how much I can ship at one time. U2U me and I'll get some out to you. Sodium bromide and postage free as always.
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[*] posted on 18-8-2015 at 21:19


Quote: Originally posted by diddi  
what was the qty/price j_sum?

I wasn't given one. I mentioned that I would not be looking for more than a kg at a time. I got the following response:
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Since you need small amount of sodium bromide, we think it would be better for you to buy in Australia directly. It will save you time and money,If you buy from our company, the shipping cost is very expensive.

If anyone has a need for greater quantities than that then do investigate. I got the impression through my email conversation that they would be thorough and efficient and would seek to price competitively.
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[*] posted on 19-8-2015 at 02:42


Shameless plug alert:

If you are located in Australia or NZ, I sell it... I have approximately 15kg in stock - ACS reagent grade

www.argentscientific.com

5% discount for ScienceMadness members - use the following discount code at checkout "SCIMAD5"

I also sell it on eBay.
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