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sad.gif posted on 6-9-2012 at 17:57
Suggested Reading Materials for Energetic Materials


I have been interested in energetic materials for a fairly long time. From black powder as a kid to fireworks as a teenager, and this led(years later) to the creation of Chemistry as a hobby. But I was willing to accept that I did not have the knowledge to dive into high explosives nor the lab capabilities. Instead I have been studying organic chemistry, grinding my way through The Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments by Robert Thompson and picked up more than a few more books on organic chemistry and worked my way through those. Now a few years down the road, I consider myself well versed enough in chemistry to actually make explosives(however I do not consider my self knowledgeable at all about explosives, nor the special care that must be taken with them). So once again, rather than immediately throwing myself into a ETN synthesis, I came here to ask, what is some recommended reading material before I begin making explosives. I would prefer as many books as you could think of as I could care less if I spend 100 hours reading, as long as it eliminates(as much as possible) the risk of making/ using explosives. Also try to remember that I am looking a little more for the books about the mechanics of explosives, less about the synthesis of exotic ones.

Thanks for any help, and sorry if I there is already a thread about it, I did not find one with a satisfactory amount.

Ps: Sorry for my other two posts(not in this section, he meant to, however), these were by my very much smaller brother. He is only twelve and I've had to very verbally discourage him from making explosives, as he feels he has some special knowledge of explosives in a way that reminds me all to much of the dawson/holmes1880 debacle :( .
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[*] posted on 6-9-2012 at 18:37


The Chemistry of Powder and Explosives, by Tenney L. Davis is highly recommended as a general encyclopaedia. Although it's very old, it's still relevant and well written. I wish I read that book before I started any practical work. I think SM has a PDF of it in its library.
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[*] posted on 6-9-2012 at 19:20


I would suggest also reading up on the hot spot theory of initiation of explosives. That way you understand what initiates explosives and how to initiate them if, and only if, you want them to.
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[*] posted on 7-9-2012 at 13:50


I am actually reading The Chemistry of Powder and Explosives right now, but thanks for the suggestion. Fusionfire- the article I could find on hot spot theory is quite interesting, and definitely worth the read.
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[*] posted on 8-9-2012 at 04:44


COPAE by Davis is superb. It goes into both the history AND making of energetics. However, it can be a little bit light on theory. I think the best accumulated knowledge for energetics is the Urbanski series. "The Chemistry and Technology of Explosves." Five volumes? I believe, each hundreds of pages long.

To contrast, Davis' section on TNT is maybe 4 or 5 pages. Urbanski devotes an entire chapter, ditto on nitrophenols, etc. He goes into the isomers, the chemistry behind it, and even outlines a number of industrial processes to make energetics.

What he doesn't do, is discuss lab-scale processes like Davis does, nor does he touch much on alternate methods when you don't have fuming nitric on hand. Although maybe I haven't reached that part yet!

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[*] posted on 11-9-2012 at 12:29


"Organic Chemistry of Explosives" by JP Agrawal and R Hodgson looks interesting but I haven't had a chance to read it myself. I've perused the table of contents and a few pages on that website named after a South American forest. It looks pretty thorough and addresses the topic of explosives from a synthetic chemist's perspective rather than an engineer's perspective.



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[*] posted on 11-9-2012 at 15:49


Quote: Originally posted by DDTea  
"Organic Chemistry of Explosives" by JP Agrawal and R Hodgson looks interesting but I haven't had a chance to read it myself. I've perused the table of contents and a few pages on that website named after a South American forest. It looks pretty thorough and addresses the topic of explosives from a synthetic chemist's perspective rather than an engineer's perspective.


I do not see, what is the problem with aforementioned book? Do you have it? I found it very interesting. You may read dear Jared Ledgard too, but this book contents very much extremely stupid errors (read topic "the worst book, even written")




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[*] posted on 11-9-2012 at 18:09


Quote: Originally posted by caterpillar  

I do not see, what is the problem with aforementioned book? Do you have it? I found it very interesting. You may read dear Jared Ledgard too, but this book contents very much extremely stupid errors (read topic "the worst book, even written")



There is no problem except that I cannot afford to buy it right now. It looks very good.

After typing my earlier message, I read the first chapter (free on that well-known online retailer). I'm extremely impressed. It goes into depth about how to install multiple nitro groups onto aliphatic and aromatic hydrocarbons. Lots of references and examples, too.

At less than 450 pages, this looks like the best, most current starting point for hobbyists interested in the chemistry of energetic materials.




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[*] posted on 12-9-2012 at 01:00


Is it so expensive or out of hand reach? I do have pdf and Jared's book too. I can send both of them, but my friend found them in the Net within five minutes, when I asked him about e-method.



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[*] posted on 12-9-2012 at 03:07


Just type the name of the book into Google along with pdf. On the second page is a direct link to the book I just printed the whole thing out for my reference library.
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[*] posted on 13-9-2012 at 13:09


Thanks for the suggestions....I'm going to be hung up on all the Urbanski volumes for a while;)...

Also it should be fairly easy to find the pdf's of these online, It took me round about 5 minutes to all of the Urbanski volumes and a copy of "Organic Chemistry of Explosives".
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