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[*] posted on 26-9-2012 at 18:55
Solvent for Poliacetylen


Hey,

A long time ago, I was trying to develop a set up that would give me Hidrocloric Acid. The problem is that as an undesireble product I would have Poliacetylen on the bottom of the Kitasato flask. Since it would be really hard to take it out by mechanical methods as just "scratching" it I was wondering if theres a way to solve it. I even bought a wall paint solvent, but wasnt able to test it (I would have to keep the bottle in my room, and the gases released arent really something I would want there..). Would it work? Are there some other alternatives? (if possible some of easy reach)

I think its a method that would give me a pure and even concentrated Hidrocloric acid, so I had interest in thinking about this problem again :)
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[*] posted on 28-9-2012 at 17:50


Just giving an UP.
Realized the topic got moved from organic chemistry, I wasn't finding it there :P

So anyone have a clue about some solvent for cleaning poliacetylen out of a flask?
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[*] posted on 28-9-2012 at 18:17


Based on the structure, I would guess a non-polar solvent, like hexanes, or toluene. Might be a tough thing to find, considering.

How does one, pray tell, form polyacetylene as a byproduct of HCl production?
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[*] posted on 28-9-2012 at 18:28


Quote: Originally posted by Vargouille  
Based on the structure, I would guess a non-polar solvent, like hexanes, or toluene. Might be a tough thing to find, considering.

How does one, pray tell, form polyacetylene as a byproduct of HCl production?


Pyrolysis of PVC, leading to dehydrohalogenation, I would assume.

Nothing is going to dissolve the stuff. Aromatic hydrocarbon solvents might soften it, making it easier to mechanically remove. Try shaking rock salt and a solvent like acetone in the flask. That's a fairly effective abrasive unless it's a solid layer. I hate to even suggest it, but Piranha solution would almost surely chew it up, cleaving or hydroxylating the double bonds. That stuff is downright dangerous though and I suggest it only as a last resort.




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[*] posted on 28-9-2012 at 21:39


Thanks for the answers :)

Vargouille,
I'm going to bring my glass material soon, and gonna
risk doing it, and then test the ways to take it off.
I'll try the paint remover, which is supposed to be a
non-polar solvent.

UnintentionalChaos,
You're right, I'm trying to make a PVC pyrolisis as a way
of obtaining HCl. Until now I found out that to be the most
easily acessable way of obtaining it besides trying to purify those
pool cleaners muriatic acids.
I'll try Acetone with rock salt then, Piranha as you said sounds
too dangerous, really reactive.
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