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[*] posted on 18-4-2013 at 23:33
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How can be made a very silver looking alike alloy with mostly tim and lead?
Ok as read from wikies: "Tin extraction and use can be dated to the beginnings of the Bronze Age around 3000 BC, when it was observed that copper objects formed of polymetallic ores with different metal contents had different physical properties.[18] The earliest bronze objects had tin or arsenic content of less than 2% and are therefore believed to be the result of unintentional alloying due to trace metal content in the copper ore.[19] The addition of a second metal to copper increases its hardness, lowers the melting temperature, and improves the casting process by producing a more fluid melt that cools to a denser, less spongy metal"

I would try to melt 100tons lead and tin with other chemicals to produce a small ammount of pure silver... then managem to repeat with recycled metals... Thats an artistic point of dealing for the old alchemits. what do you thin of it?
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[*] posted on 19-4-2013 at 13:13


"Silver looking alloy"? That's all of them.

You don't make much sense, you'll have to be more specific.

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[*] posted on 20-4-2013 at 01:22


Yeah man, there aren't alot of metals/alloys that don't look like silver. If you're talking about other things like, density and/or malleability, a quick google can help you out.



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[*] posted on 20-4-2013 at 08:52


'A shiny, silvery metal' are the opening words of about 75 % of the elements' descriptions...



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[*] posted on 21-4-2013 at 16:44


Yea but I was also dreamign about a a very chemically looking like in the chemical point of view...
Thats if atomic theory would inevitably turn into a mess of alchemical symbols lol...
Just put a source of radiation and a properly arranged elemental trap, the source could provide means for silver to become whine. In another words, would lead to silver.
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[*] posted on 21-4-2013 at 18:47


What? Are you talking about nuclear synthesis? Like how super heavy elements are made? But with silver?



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[*] posted on 23-4-2013 at 21:07


Quote: Originally posted by Finnnicus  
What? Are you talking about nuclear synthesis? Like how super heavy elements are made? But with silver?


Well, have you noted those radiation shields made up of lead? We could manage to put in mind a situation of reverse beta radiation but as that was anisotropically discussed b4 on these forums, we have a clue at elast reverse alpha uptake should be easier. The trick would just be to simulate alpha radiation as it is no sensical to spend much rarer and costly metals for this prodige that would lead to silver.
Have you notes on how much power in terms of active alpha particles for reverse decay can be generated with contemporary machinery?
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[*] posted on 24-4-2013 at 04:42


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This is patent nonsense: to fuse helium nuclei (alpha particles) with heavy nuclei (like e.g. lead) requires acceleration of the alpha particles to very high energy, using particle accelerators, to overcome the mutual electrostatic repulsion between the particles and the target nuclei. The strong nuclear force (which causes nucleons to bond into nuclei) acts only over very, very short distances.

This kind of 'nuclear alchemy' is of course practiced in quite a few laboratories for research purposes but yields very expensive elements and is totally outside the capability envelope of even the best equipped hobbyist.

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