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plante1999
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Telling people you dream of energetic, is not easily believable, and if you try everything from your dreams, you will soon see it was not a good idea!
I never asked for this.
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Fantasma4500
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Quote: Originally posted by plante1999  | | Telling people you dream of energetic, is not easily believable, and if you try everything from your dreams, you will soon see it was not a good idea!
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i suggest that my dreams are superior to your dreams when it comes to reality (;
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Trotsky
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I've had dreams about energetics many times. Real dreams, not fake ones.
Anyway, I'd be careful about making pure ammonium permanganate I've seen reports of spontaneous detonation. If that's not true it'd be a little less
scary.
I'm not a big fan of large quantities of primary explosives.
I am a big fan of tannerite like explosives which are insensitive unless you whack them with lead going faster than sound.
I'd like to see a permanganate based tannerite analogue.
Perhaps I should try a Cupric Oxide / Al thermite -> NH4NO3/Al -> KMnO4+Sucrose
I think KMnO4 might work better with sugar too because just mixing them dry will oxidize the sugar. It'll work best with any polyol, I think.
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AndersHoveland
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Why? I have already explained that, for pyrotechnic compositions, permanganate would be a worse oxidizer than perchlorate.
Do you realize that ammonium permanganate is a sensitive, fairly unstable explosive?
Another thing you may not have considered is that permanganate leaves behind dirty black MnO2 stains. It is very messy, and the fumes from such a
pyrotechnic combustion would be very bad to breathe.
[Edited on 29-6-2013 by AndersHoveland]
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Trotsky
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Why? To see if it's possible and because it's cheaper and available very pure.
I still believe that with enough Al the MnO2 will react to act as a thermite.
As far as inhaling manganese compounds, I'm well aware of the dangers. I'm intimately familiar with them you might say. I'm slowly developing muscle
problems due to many tests with permanganate based rocket motors. It's no fun and I'm far too young for this problem but what is done is done.
That said, I doubt any real risk from detonating a permanganate explosive at 100 yards with a .223. The gunpowder and lead surely presents greater
risks.
I suppose manganese poisoning is better than lead poisoning. I won't go insane 
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Fantasma4500
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ammonium permanganate should be handled with respect, such as all other compounds you are not familiar with, and have potentially dangerous properties
its measured to be slightly more sensitive to shock than ETN is
when its ignited it just flies around like tiny rockets
as anders says MnO2 is very messy 
but again the idea of KMnO4 as HE Oxidizer would be that its commonly available, and a strong oxidizer.. i have mixed up KMnO4 with sugar and i didnt
really see any reaction..
however KMnO4 and ascorbic acid is another thing, tho it also needs a tiny bit of water
btw about muscle problems.. what do you mean by that..? degenerating muscles or such? weaker muscles? could be worth noting down.. doesnt sound good..
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Trotsky
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Google manganism. It's a sort of parkinsonian condition, degenerative, that continues progressing long after exposure is ceased (a decade plus) and
for which l dopa is minimally effective. I've gotten no benefit from it. I do notice benefits from anticholinergics. Benadryl is a surprising
relief, cheap and readily available.
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Trotsky
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With the KMnO4 and sugar, it'll turn black over a few hours. It's not at all rapid.
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