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[*] posted on 9-11-2017 at 12:20


@RogueRose I'm convinced that you live in a junkyard. IIRC, lead-acid battery chargers are often able to output at both 6V and 12V, and are probably the best power source for this type of thing. Every one that I've seen has an ammeter on it too. If you know any diesel mechanics, they'd be guaranteed to own a decent one, and would probably let you borrow it if you did them a favor. Same goes for anyone that owns a bulldozer or front-end loader or a lot of that type of heavy machinery. Your stainless steel cathode is probably not a good idea. Stainless steel is protected with a chromium oxide layer, and the cathode reduces things. All that in a chloride-rich bath just seems like a bad idea. They don't make "cathodized aluminum" for a reason, after all. Try copper or graphite, maybe? That way you could tell by the change in color if any lead was dissolving and plating.

@ninhydrin1 Yes. You could even use Vasaline if temperatures didn't get too high. Silicone is used mainly because its viscosity doesn't change much with temperature.

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[*] posted on 10-11-2017 at 18:25


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I watched a King of random offering recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7vXvLvowgI. (It appears that Grant Thompson now has a side-kick.)
This video has a nice thermal mix of zinc metal, ammonium nitrate and ammonium chloride that is quite unstable. And of course it has a suitably hyperbolic but nondescript name. The guy appears to understand little chemistry but he makes a reasonable stab at presenting some chemical equations so that is at least something. (I haven't bothered working out the stoichiometry of his mix.)

The question I have, is why the green? The flame colour seen is not what I would normally associate with zinc. Anyone have any insight?
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[*] posted on 10-11-2017 at 19:56


According to Thompson's Illustrated Guide, the flame test for ammonium ions is a faint green but is often masked by other species. That might explain it. The ammonium nitrate decomposes while the ammonium chloride present burns in the flames produced to form a green colored flame.



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[*] posted on 11-11-2017 at 01:34


Chlorine can make a flame green. And nitrate could oxidize chloride to chlorine.



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[*] posted on 11-11-2017 at 08:11


I can personally report that one of the few pyrotechnic star compositions using Zn as a fuel (Weingart's "granite stars", AKA Zinc spreader stars) burns with a green flame.

The mixture is Zn fueled and KNO3 oxidized, so I think we can leave ammonium spectra out of the consideration?

(Edit)
Of course, S will react with Zn as well... Anyone recall the good old Zn/S rocket fuel flame color? Have not seen that burn since the 1970s.


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[*] posted on 11-11-2017 at 14:33


That's cool. I have only associated blue/white with zinc flames. Which is to say therd is a whole lot more going on in the spectra than the elementary textbooks suggest.
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[*] posted on 12-11-2017 at 09:12
Diatomaceous Earth washed with HCl - Using the liquid for FeCl2?


I used some HCl (hardware store Muriatic - which is very clear and clean it seems) to clean some Diatomaceous Earth and the result was very yellow liquid and I think it still has a good bit of HCl and is not completely FeCl2. So I was wondering if this can be used to make some FeCl2 - or is there a good chance that there is other metals dissolved in the liquid. The DE was a high quality garden variety that is much whiter than many DE's I've seen so I think it was fresh water DE as opposed to salt water DE which tends to be darker and have more metal contaminates.

I'm not sure what else to do with the liquid and if there is something else that it could be useful for, I'd appreciate any input on that. Thanks!
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[*] posted on 15-11-2017 at 11:56


Hello everyone. I am considering purchasing a thermocouple. I found some relatively affordable ones on eBay. I found the thermocouple reader w/ 2 extra probes, an additional probe that claims to have a temperature range of -100 to 700 degrees Celsius, and a thermometer well for just over 25 bucks. What I am asking is if it is worth it. I am a broke teenager so I don't want to spend anymore money than I have to :P. For those of you that use these, do you prefer a standard glass thermometer or do you like your thermocouple better?
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[*] posted on 16-11-2017 at 09:22


Thermocouples with digital readout are easier to read than conventional thermometers but not as accurate unless calibrated



Can anyone tell me,

What is a quick reliable easy method to differentiate between hdpe and PTFE ?
(I have no fluorine compounds, but many common solvents)

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[*] posted on 16-11-2017 at 10:11


Based on their densities, I imagine PTFE would sink in water while HDPE floats.
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[*] posted on 16-11-2017 at 10:12


Shave a small sliver of the plastic off, hold it in a lighter flame. HDPE will easily melt and then burns like parafin with a smell like a wax candle.

PTFE does not burn in air, it will just degrade and smells quite different. Don't sniff too deeply or often of overheated Teflon.



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[*] posted on 16-11-2017 at 10:46


Sounds like UHMW plastic sheet, lots of uses. Essentially solvent proof, non stick- almost no adhesive will bond, but can be thermally welded. It's self lubricating, tough, can usually be tapped for threaded holes. Makes a good sliding base for saws or routers to be run on surfaces that metal could mar, my usual use.



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[*] posted on 16-11-2017 at 10:49


Thanks for the quick responses,
Today a workmate gave me a 1" 24" x24" slab of white plastic that he thought may be ptfe,
I just tested it and unfortunately it burns nicely with a blue flame, dripping screaming blobs of molten plastic :(

Almost certainly hdpe/uhmwpe, which is still useful.

EDIT: Sorry Bert, this post was before yours, but I tried to edit it and messed up so posted it again, by which time you posted the above ... .
I use hdpe quite a lot for stupid-high-voltage stuff, almost perfect - until it melts.



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[*] posted on 16-11-2017 at 20:43


Quote: Originally posted by Sulaiman  
Thanks for the quick responses,
Today a workmate gave me a 1" 24" x24" slab of white plastic that he thought may be ptfe,
I just tested it and unfortunately it burns nicely with a blue flame, dripping screaming blobs of molten plastic :(

Almost certainly hdpe/uhmwpe, which is still useful.

EDIT: Sorry Bert, this post was before yours, but I tried to edit it and messed up so posted it again, by which time you posted the above ... .
I use hdpe quite a lot for stupid-high-voltage stuff, almost perfect - until it melts.



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You do realize 1" of UHMWPE will stop most conventional firearms, right? That's an armor plate you've got right there, and an expensive one at that - I'd give an arm and a leg to have that much UHMWPE at one time.




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[*] posted on 21-11-2017 at 19:02


Could benzyl nitrate be prepared via nitration of benzyl alcohol,
or is the aromatic ring likely to be nitrated to, forming a mixture of nitrobenzyl nitrates?

Benzyl nitrate doesn't appear to be very well documented, but from what I can find it seems to be a liquid that's fairly stable at room temperature.





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[*] posted on 21-11-2017 at 21:47


Would a paint can hold up against plante1999's synthesis of TiCl4, as quoted below (assuming it actually works)? If not, what is a suitable container for this reaction (which will take place at around 400 degrees Celsius)? I will be using a mini butane burner I happen to have.

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Simply melt pyrosulphate with the ore in presence of NaCl, it will make HCl + TiCl4

Sources: my own work

In fact I already made most inorganic titanium compounds and many organic ones, I think that I have some(a lot) knowledge in this field.

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[*] posted on 23-11-2017 at 12:18


I was needing a rubber stopper so I went to my box of neoprene rubber stoppers with each size grouped in a Ziplock bag. But they have become oily and was wondering what's going on with that? What might the oily substance be?
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[*] posted on 12-12-2017 at 15:37


What is the name of the theoretical sieve that reverses entropy by allowing only high-energy molecules to penetrate while elastically bouncing off low-energy molecules?



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[*] posted on 12-12-2017 at 16:10


Maxwell's demon?



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[*] posted on 12-12-2017 at 17:21


Quote: Originally posted by DraconicAcid  
Maxwell's demon?


I think that's it. I remember hearing it described as something like a bucket that leaks boiling water as the water inside freezes.




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[*] posted on 12-12-2017 at 20:54


Larry Niven's "Unfinished Story #1" (or #2) involved the idea.



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[*] posted on 14-12-2017 at 13:52


Can sodium pyrosulfate be used as a dehydrating agent similar to, say, anhydrous copper sulfate?
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[*] posted on 17-12-2017 at 01:49


Does anyone know of a good way to distinguish rhenium and tungsten? I bought some cycloid tube filaments on ebay advertised as rhenium, but I've been having doubts on their authenticity.
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[*] posted on 17-12-2017 at 03:01


Well, tungsten will react with H2O2 to form tungstic acid which is a pretty yellow-coloured solid. Tungsten is also quite dense with a specific gravity of 19.3. I don't know if either of these properties is sufficient to ditingush it from rhenium but that is where I would start.
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[*] posted on 17-12-2017 at 03:08


I've gotten that far: rhenium also reacts with hydrogen peroxide to form perrhenic acid, while tungsten forms a soluble complex in excess peroxide. Rhenium is also denser than tungsten, so that rules that one out.

I do notice that some of the strips have an iridescent tarnish on them. Is this a bad sign?
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