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[*] posted on 29-6-2014 at 15:57


I told the people of the r/homechemistry subreddit about this wiki and gave them a reminder that our site exists. That should bring in some (limited) attention.



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[*] posted on 29-6-2014 at 15:59


http://www.reddit.com/r/homechemistry/comments/29fi4u/potent...

This is it, right? Hopefully we'll get some more edits; try r/chemistry as well. (I don't have a Reddit account) And thanks for adding pictures and pages!

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[*] posted on 29-6-2014 at 18:03


Indeed, that is my post. Probably should have thought of this before, but I suppose it's okay that a few of you know my name from this. And no problem on the edits, I plan to keep up with this wiki long-term, as it's nice that an amateur among amateurs such as myself can contribute to the field.



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[*] posted on 29-6-2014 at 19:15


I reccommennd making more stubs. We can always add to them later. A chemistry wiki looks less reputable with less pages than there are elements :P



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[*] posted on 30-6-2014 at 13:37


Okay, so here's an idea: Each time any of us are wandering a forum and find a question someone has asked that we would like to answer, we create an article on the topic and then link the article to the forum? It'd be a great way to show people the site and get them to use it more.



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[*] posted on 30-6-2014 at 14:41


Quote: Originally posted by No Tears Only Dreams Now  
Okay, so here's an idea: Each time any of us are wandering a forum and find a question someone has asked that we would like to answer, we create an article on the topic and then link the article to the forum? It'd be a great way to show people the site and get them to use it more.

Exactly my thought!




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[*] posted on 30-6-2014 at 15:26


Yeah that's a great idea!
Oh, and since it kept trying to welcome people with a robotic sounding post in my name on the message wall, I disabled the message wall. It's not really necessary since we can just use the forum. There didn't seem to be any way for me to just disable the welcome messages.
Also, my summer class is over on Wednesday. Then it's major Wiki-editing time for me!

[Edited on 6-30-2014 by zts16]




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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 06:39


Sounds great! I'll be busy for a few days this week--but after that? Wikitime :) (Even better than adventure time :P)



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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 09:32


I did indeed decide to put a notice about our wiki in r/chemistry. Considering a lot more people use that subreddit than homechemistry, we could potentially get some more traffic to the wiki that may or may not conflict with our standards. Keep your eyes peeled.



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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 10:15


Also, if someone could tell me how to delete a category, that'd be fantastic. I accidentally typed "carbonatees" instead of carbonates.



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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 10:21


Someone already fixed it. The attached picture shows you how to do it.

Here's the reddit thread for anyone who is interested: http://redd.it/29ktyy

[edit] I just noticed we've linked the wiki in every single one of our sigs. And no, it was not fixed - I was looking at potassium carbonate.

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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 10:51


Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force  


[edit] I just noticed we've linked the wiki in every single one of our sigs.

Yup :p By the way I won't edit for a while, I'm going on vacation in 2 days!




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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 13:54


There's a bit of a bug on the mobile site: I can't see any new edits since zts16 placed his copper photo on the wiki. Anyone else have this problem?

Where are you going alexleyenda?




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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 13:55


Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force  
There's a bit of a bug on the mobile site: I can't see any new edits since zts16 placed his copper photo on the wiki. Anyone else have this problem?

Where are you going alexleyenda?


I'm having the same issue on my laptop, in addition to this, the site isn't letting me add a page to the wiki.




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Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force  


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Nowhere too fancy, just going in Gaspésie to see my family. It is at the east of Québec, where the water's temperature at the beaches is 10 °C ^^




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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 15:50


Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force  
There's a bit of a bug on the mobile site: I can't see any new edits since zts16 placed his copper photo on the wiki. Anyone else have this problem?

I've noticed that too. Also, when I first go to the wiki on the desktop version it briefly shows that as the most recent edit before it loads all the way. I have no idea why though.

Oh, and I had a good idea yesterday that I forgot to post. Do you guys think that it would be helpful to have a page template made for chemical compounds, since that seems to be what the bulk of the pages on the wiki are, and it would help make them more uniform too?

[Edited on 7-1-2014 by zts16]




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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 16:18


Absolutely! We also need infoboxes and those navigation templates that are at the bottom of the page.



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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 16:43


To edit the categories on a page, just click the list button(3 horizontal lines) next to the cancel button, and go down to categories.

As for a template, what words should we use? (synthesis/preparation, uses/reactions/projects, etc.)
If we decide on that it will all look a lot more uniform.




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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 16:47


Ok, I'll make a chemical compound page template, complete with a built-in infobox. It will also have the headings for each section built in, so that all chemical compound pages will have the same format.

How about like this:
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Availability/Preparation (choose one or both)
Projects
Safety
References

I'll go back and change the existing pages to that format too, unless anybody has any objections, or suggestions to add to the template.




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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 16:56


I think Uses and Availability should go together because people looking under Uses are probably looking for an OTC source.
Also, I don't know if Relevant Sciencemadness threads could go under References or should go under its own section.




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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 17:16


Might as well just keep them under references. And ok, I'll remove the uses section and just start it with properties, after the introduction under the main title, as usual.



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[*] posted on 1-7-2014 at 17:31


Alright, now the template can be used by clicking the link which now appears at the top of the editing page. I'm going to get the infobox customized now. I don't think it needs to be quite as exhaustive as the ones on Wikipedia. Those can be kind of busy.

Edit: Couldn't fully figure out the infobox. I've got to go now anyway, so I'll work on it more tomorrow.

[Edited on 7-2-2014 by zts16]




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[*] posted on 2-7-2014 at 20:37


Infoboxes might still be something that will come along soon but not yet. Also, I'd like to suggest that categories are only added if really necessary and if they would contain a decent number of pages. For example, I've been deleting all of the element categories, since they only contain all of the element's compounds plus the element, making them relatively obsolete since we have categories for each element's compounds already. The element might as well be put in that too, for simplicity's sake.

Really good news though, is that the past few days have had a huge spike in editing and we've practically doubled the number of pages! Keep up the great work everyone! My main goal right now is retrofitting all of the old element and compound pages with the new standard layout that I made. I'll definitely be glad to get all of the aesthetic and organizational kinks worked out.

The wiki is unfortunately running very slow for me tonight, so I think I'll stop working on it tonight, although I planned on doing a lot more. I'll do a good amount tomorrow though. Maybe I'll even get those dang infoboxes working!




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[*] posted on 3-7-2014 at 08:49


Infoboxes aren't immediately necessary, that's ok. I did a bit of posting today, I guess I'll get back to work.



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[*] posted on 3-7-2014 at 09:37


@The Volatile Chemist: Could you please use the new format for chemical compounds and elements? We're really trying to go for some cohesion on these pages. You can implement it by clicking the link at the top of the page when you create a new page.



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