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[*] posted on 27-9-2014 at 09:04
You can get arrested for match heads for RPhos


well the CPS told the jury that red match heads are the main sourse of red phos for the meth cook.
I cover tins `n` stuff in the match wood, well used to (Past tense)

The leftover dust from an old eph40 bottle

empty iodine tubs from the vet constiture posession of the chemical, wether its there or not (just empty containers were found)

no equipment set up in any way shape or form.
guilty on 2 counts
1. intent to manufacture amphet a class B drug @ the time
and meth...a class A drug

wrap your heads around that for a fair trial. jury took 15 mins to decide. wonkers, bet the never discussed anything but the menu for lunch.

12 idiots in 1 room, unreal
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[*] posted on 27-9-2014 at 09:13


In many places in the US the law says that possession of two out of three of those is evidence of intent. So if you have matches and a box of Sudafed then you are done.
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[*] posted on 27-9-2014 at 10:08


Considering there is no red phosphorus in match heads, seems a little strange. The phosphorus is in the striker strip, it would be foolish to have it in the head together with chlorate... those two never get along well together.



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[*] posted on 27-9-2014 at 10:51


Quote: Originally posted by BromicAcid  
Considering there is no red phosphorus in match heads, seems a little strange. The phosphorus is in the striker strip, it would be foolish to have it in the head together with chlorate... those two never get along well together.

It is only in strike anywhere match heads.
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[*] posted on 27-9-2014 at 11:00


Quote: Originally posted by macckone  
It is only in strike anywhere match heads.


It's not in those either. That's P4S3. Nothing the police or prosecution or judges or juries say should come as a surprise. Idiots will totally fuck you over every time, and they will never feel anything but happiness in doing so. The prosecutor and his/her experts and witnesses job is to convince the judge/jury, not to be right, and the judges job is to prevent you from presenting a defense that will get you off.




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[*] posted on 27-9-2014 at 14:45


Most probably don't contain any pure phosphorous anymore.
They did back in the 70s and at least to some period in the 80s.
For that matter I am not even certain they still make strike anywhere
matches for sale in the US. I have seen an occasional store with them
but they appear to be REALLY old.
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[*] posted on 28-9-2014 at 04:48


Quote: Originally posted by macckone  
Most probably don't contain any pure phosphorous anymore.
They did back in the 70s and at least to some period in the 80s.
For that matter I am not even certain they still make strike anywhere
matches for sale in the US.


Wrong wrong and wrong again. There has been no elemental P in any form in the tip of matches sold in stores in the USA for a hundred years. One can certainly be convicted of criminal attempt, and others convicted of conspiracy, for attempting to extract non-existent RP from the heads.




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[*] posted on 28-9-2014 at 08:13


Quote: Originally posted by S.C. Wack  
Quote: Originally posted by macckone  
Most probably don't contain any pure phosphorous anymore.
They did back in the 70s and at least to some period in the 80s.
For that matter I am not even certain they still make strike anywhere
matches for sale in the US.


Wrong wrong and wrong again. There has been no elemental P in any form in the tip of matches sold in stores in the USA for a hundred years. One can certainly be convicted of criminal attempt, and others convicted of conspiracy, for attempting to extract non-existent RP from the heads.

Funny that they updated the labeling requirements for phosphorous matches in the mid 70s if it didn't exist, especially when they specifically exempted phosphorous compounds.
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[*] posted on 28-9-2014 at 11:35


It is a sad state of affairs to contrast this with jury duty, where a man was found with cocaine in his possessions at his house, multiple cellphones with drug contacts, and thousands of petty cash in their wallet while unemployed... and finally, on tape selling cocaine. People on the jury thought the evidence wasn't strong enough because police waited for an opportune moment to arrest them rather than engage two potentially armed men exchanging cocaine in a public place with all kinds of bystanders. Jury logic: "if they didn't get the cocaine on him, how are they sure it was his?"

Uh, they found cocaine residue and large quantities for repackaging in his house amongst his possessions, with his fingerprints all over the packaging. Cocaine confirmed by simultaneous FTIR/MS.
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