Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Cultiving Lichens...anyone tried this?
kazaa81
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 368
Registered: 30-4-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: ok

[*] posted on 27-8-2005 at 07:40
Cultiving Lichens...anyone tried this?


Hallo to all,
have anyone tried to cultiving lichens?

Any information welcomed!

Thanks at all for help!

E.b.C: spelling

[Edited on 30-8-2005 by chemoleo]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
12AX7
Post Harlot
*****




Posts: 4803
Registered: 8-3-2005
Location: oscillating
Member Is Offline

Mood: informative

[*] posted on 27-8-2005 at 10:22


No idea. Scrape some off trees/fences/rocks?

Heck, what is it that lichens do in the first place? What interest do you have in them?

Tim




Seven Transistor Labs LLC http://seventransistorlabs.com/
Electronic Design, from Concept to Layout.
Need engineering assistance? Drop me a message!
View user's profile Visit user's homepage View All Posts By User This user has MSN Messenger
unionised
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 5102
Registered: 1-11-2003
Location: UK
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 27-8-2005 at 11:29


Somebody must know about them or we would run out of litmus paper. On the other hand a quick google for "lichen cultivation" didn't get far.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
kazaa81
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 368
Registered: 30-4-2004
Member Is Offline

Mood: ok

[*] posted on 27-8-2005 at 11:36


What terrain should be suitable? Agar? Water-sucrose? Lichens are a cross between alga and fungus and they do reproduce them via ifes.
Lichens are a good air quality check, because some types grow in a certain air while others not.
my interests in them? firstly for good looking at strange forms of them, also they synthetize certain chemicals.
For who don't know what they are or something i've found this: http://www.earthlife.net/lichens/intro.html
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Esplosivo
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 491
Registered: 7-2-2004
Location: Mediterranean
Member Is Offline

Mood: Quantized

[*] posted on 27-8-2005 at 22:48


A lichen is composed of two symbiotically related organisms, a fungus and a photosynthetic microorganism, such as a unicellular green alga or a cyanobacterium. There are three main groups of lichens, namely the crustose (crustlike), foliose (leafy) and fruticose (shrubby). They are hardy and managed to evolve, survive and colonize most of earths' habitats, including hostile ones such as the antartica planes. Despite their hardiness, as already mentioned, they succumb to industrial pollution. I had once developed an interest in certain 'species' which accumulate sulfur from the sulfur dioxide in the air.

They may reproduce either by fragmentation of the thallus, that is simply scraping off some part of a lichen and placing it on a 'fertile' medium will do, or else by soredia, which consists of a few photosynthetic cells surrounded and held together by fungal hyphae, which are released naturally by the lichen.

Lichens can colonize diverse habitats, ranging from bare rocks to tree barks. They satisfy most of their nutritional requirements from the air and rainwater, gaining some minerals from their substratum and dust. They are mainly active mainly after a rain, after which they 'dry out' (<10% water content) and may fall into a dormant state in which they are extremely tollerant to extremes of temperature.

If anyone is interested in growing lichens beware the fact that they typically grow less than or approximately 1cm per year (depending on the 'species' ).

Hope this helps.

Edit: After double checking the relationship between the fungus and the photosynthetic organism is not of the mutually beneficial symbiosis type. The fungus in the lichen literally squeezes out nutrients from the photosynthetic microorganisms. It was also found out that photosynthetic microorganisms grow much faster on their own then when associated with the fungus. Thus the relationship is more a type of parasitism by the fungus on the photosynthetic microorganisms.

[Edited on 28-8-2005 by Esplosivo]




Theory guides, experiment decides.
View user's profile Visit user's homepage View All Posts By User
Oxydro
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 152
Registered: 24-5-2004
Location: NS, Canada
Member Is Offline

Mood: distracted

[*] posted on 29-8-2005 at 19:51


I was under the impression that in the harsh environments some lichens grow in, the photosynthetic portion of the organism could not survive without the aid of the fungus making a protective shield for it. Maybe in terms of nutrients the fungus is a parasite, but overall I think it does contribute.

However its been a while since I looked at such things, and I will humbly accept your version if you tell me I'm wrong :).




"Our interest's on the dangerous side of things" -- Browning
View user's profile Visit user's homepage View All Posts By User This user has MSN Messenger
Esplosivo
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 491
Registered: 7-2-2004
Location: Mediterranean
Member Is Offline

Mood: Quantized

[*] posted on 29-8-2005 at 23:41


To a certain extent the fungus might be said to provide shelter/protection and maybe create a humid microclimate with an increased availability of water, but that is it. The fungus reaps most of the benefits, namely the photosynthetic products. It is (in most cases) true that the photosynthetic organism might not survive in the harsh environment, but this also applies to the fungus which cannot survive without the relation between the two. Besides, certain relations between organisms are not clear cut, such that they may seem to fall in between two different types of relations.

[Edited on 30-8-2005 by Esplosivo]




Theory guides, experiment decides.
View user's profile Visit user's homepage View All Posts By User

  Go To Top