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guy
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Hey. I don't know what this Red Devil Lye ban is about. I live in California and I can find this stuff in hardware stores such as Ace Hardware and
grocery stores like Vons. It costs about $5.
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12AX7
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Last time I checked, Ace still had some, but there wasn't much on shelf, either. Probably remaining stock... get it while you can.
Tim
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UniversalSolvent
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http://www.jancynmfg.com/main_line_&_drain-e-ze.htm
That "Main Line Cleaner" can be found at Home Depot. It's 100% NaOH according to the database of household chemicals, but I'm pretty sure it's liquid.
Never used Red Devil, but it looks solid.
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Swany
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Feels solid, and is solid, as well. Small white prills.
My hardware stores are officially out of Red Devil. 
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UniversalSolvent
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Swany
Feels solid, and is solid, as well. Small white prills.
My hardware stores are officially out of Red Devil. |
I missed out... I might drop by an Ace tomorrow and horde what I
can... Is Roebic any good? I know it's more expensive, but I want to be ready in case I find that Red Devil is no longer on the local shelves.
[Edited on 3-6-2006 by UniversalSolvent]
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Elawr
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I too am lamenting the demise of Red Devil Lye. About the only thing I use for general purpose cleaning around the house is a solution of 1 tspn NaOH
per quart H20 in a spray bottle. Nothing cuts grease any better, even with a solution so dilute that there is little risk of serious eye injury and
skin contact is well-tolerated (Although I would not recommend soaking in it for any length of time). I did buy some Zep drain opener from Home Depot
recently. I was disappointed to find the product contained some kind of blue crap along with metallic granules I presume to be Al or Zn. Like what
used to be in Drain-O to enhance its drain unclogging action.
[Edited on 5-6-2006 by Elawr]
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Mumbles
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I currently am employed at a hardware store. Frankly, if it wasn't for me getting to browse all the chems and theorise about what I would do with
them, I may hang myself. There are other more interesting job opportunities currently being presented, but I don't want to get off on a tangent.
There are at least 3 brands of pure lye we carry. We still have red devil, and are still getting stock in. Perhaps the home warehouse just has a
large stock of it. I'll have to check on the other two. One is a white bottle that just says "Lye" in big letters. It says it contains 100% lye on
the side. I cannot for the life of me remember the name of the manufactur. The other is in a black bottle. It mentions lye no where on the bottle
besides in the little warning text. It does have the traditional bottle style though. Round body, about 4" tall, safety screw cap.
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mrjeffy321
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mumbles
I currently am employed at a hardware store.
We still have red devil, and are still getting stock in. Perhaps the home warehouse just has a large stock of it. |
Really? You still get stock (and re stock) Red Devil lye...ya, you must have a warehouse full of it back at "head quarters" somewhere I suppose since
it is confirmed they are not making it any more.
Where do you work (name of store), anywhere we might know?
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mericad193724
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my local hardware store stopped selling RDL, I got the last bottle. They did get some other replacement product instead of it, also in crystal form
called something like 100% Pure Dain Opener Lye. It costs about 3.99 for about 3/4 of the amount in the Red Devil Lye bottle. Whatever, its good
enough for me. Also, My hardware store ran out of Sulfuric acid drain opener, any other products that have it, or good brand names I should look into?
Thanks.
Mericad.
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kazaa81
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that's bad...NaOH is a very useful chemical, as HCl and H2SO4.
About soapmakers: I think that they can use the "old" method, that involved yes fats but, instead of NaOH/KOH, just ash.
Not sure about how good is this...
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triphenylphosphineoxide
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The old method of soap making using ash works reasonably well.
However it is slower, as -CO3 is a much weaker base than -OH.
And cleaning the ash in the first place is a pain, but not as horrible as trying to wash contaiminants from soap; a process that makes a mockery of
the whole idea of soap
Regarding RDL keep your eyes open some other manufacturere will probably try to fill the void.
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