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[*] posted on 21-7-2015 at 10:55
Ethyl chloride and alkali carbonate reaction?


Hi guys,

I've searched but couldn't find this type of reaction anywhere. To me it looks natural that these two would automatically react like this:

2 EtCl + K2CO3 ----> Et-O-COOEt + 2 KCl

So the question is: Do they react or not? If yes, is it at an appreciable rate?

Thanks.

[Edited on 21-7-2015 by Adas]




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[*] posted on 21-7-2015 at 11:15


For starters, your reaction equation isn't balanced.



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[*] posted on 21-7-2015 at 11:32


Edited, thanks.



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[*] posted on 21-7-2015 at 11:35


What state (solid, solution etc) do you intend your reagents to be in?

A watery solution of potassium carbonate will hydrolyse EtCl to EtOH and KCl, for instance.

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[*] posted on 21-7-2015 at 12:50


I want to use potassium carbonate to sequester HCl that will be made during alkylation with EtCl in ethanol (almost anhyd.). I do not have sterically hindered bases to do the job.



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[*] posted on 21-7-2015 at 13:55


Quote: Originally posted by Adas  
I want to use potassium carbonate to sequester HCl that will be made during alkylation with EtCl in ethanol (almost anhyd.). I do not have sterically hindered bases to do the job.


Almost no one uses volatile EtCl (BP = 13 C) for alkylations. It's a fairly toxic compound.




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[*] posted on 22-7-2015 at 08:18


Alkyl chlorides are the least toxic compounds of all the alkyl halides. Toxic concentration of alkyl chloride usually is unbearable because of irritation and odor.
Talking about the original post, the actuall reaction most likely will be
2 EtCl + K2CO3 -> 2 C2H4 + 2 KCl + CO2 + H2O
and it requires pretty harsh conditions (nothing will happen at room temperature).
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