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[*] posted on 16-12-2015 at 16:32


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I would like to enter the contest. I have couple ideas that I been toying with , all otc and harmless. Cost about 50 bucks. Just for fun of course.

Great. I can't wait to see your ideas! And everyone else's of course. I think this is going to be really exciting when the submissions come in.




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[*] posted on 17-12-2015 at 15:20


Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  
Quote: Originally posted by skip  
I would like to enter the contest. I have couple ideas that I been toying with , all otc and harmless. Cost about 50 bucks. Just for fun of course.

Great. I can't wait to see your ideas! And everyone else's of course. I think this is going to be really exciting when the submissions come in.


I am interested in what can be made with harmless reagents that cost less than $50,with the final product also being harmless as well.

I am just a bit nervous right now,so I will ask again just to be safe before it's too late: If tap water is used to form part of the final product,does it count as an item? What about electrodes that contain a material that can be used as a catalyst for a reaction(And is obviously not consumed in said reaction)?

I don't want to get disqualified for using an extra item due to a misunderstanding,so I want to clarify this completely.


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[*] posted on 17-12-2015 at 15:43


@Agiri
Both your questions are addressed in the instructions.
Tap water is ok.
Lab equipment that is not consumed does not count as an item. That would include catalysts. But of course, if your catalyst was not unrecoverable, that would be an issue.




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[*] posted on 17-12-2015 at 16:03


Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  
@Agiri
Both your questions are addressed in the instructions.
Tap water is ok.
Lab equipment that is not consumed does not count as an item. That would include catalysts. But of course, if your catalyst was not unrecoverable, that would be an issue.


WHEW! That sure is a relief.




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[*] posted on 17-12-2015 at 22:55


Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  
@Agiri
Both your questions are addressed in the instructions.
Tap water is ok.
Lab equipment that is not consumed does not count as an item. That would include catalysts. But of course, if your catalyst was not unrecoverable, that would be an issue.


I meant "not recoverable".
Lest there be confusion.
Don't never not use no double negatives.




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[*] posted on 20-12-2015 at 20:00


Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  

Don't never not use no double negatives.

Ah,the intentional or unintentional misuse of grammar,one of the most irritating things that I can't help but react to.




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[*] posted on 20-12-2015 at 21:09


Quote: Originally posted by Agari  
Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  

Don't never not use no double negatives.

Ah,the intentional or unintentional misuse of grammar,one of the most irritating things that I can't help but react to.


In case you didn't get the humor in that line, it was actually meant to be taken as a joke.




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[*] posted on 20-12-2015 at 21:22


Quote: Originally posted by Volanschemia  
Quote: Originally posted by Agari  
Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  

Don't never not use no double negatives.

Ah,the intentional or unintentional misuse of grammar,one of the most irritating things that I can't help but react to.


In case you didn't get the humor in that line, it was actually meant to be taken as a joke.


I know it was meant to be a joke,I am just saying that I find misuse of grammar very irritating,whether it was done on purpose or not.




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[*] posted on 20-12-2015 at 21:25


I'll try not to irritate you again agari.
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[*] posted on 20-12-2015 at 23:03


Count me in!

Question: You made it pretty clear that the results should be geared towards beginners, ones an amateur can replicate, does that mean there is a restriction on hazard level? There are some pretty bad nasties that can be made from simple household chemicals that are still useful intermediates...

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[*] posted on 20-12-2015 at 23:21


I will post submissions so they are available to all. Just include appropriate hazard information in your submission so that anyone following your procedure knows what to expect and how to look after themselves.

People have killed themselves using bleach and ammonia. I would not want to exclude these for example.




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[*] posted on 30-12-2015 at 14:41


Hmm, we've got plenty of time, I'll put it off a little longer... :)



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[*] posted on 30-12-2015 at 18:11


I'm waiting a couple of days for the weather to cool down a bit before I start mine. Wouldn't want anything to get to excited...



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[*] posted on 30-12-2015 at 18:17


Haha, I may set out the main part of my reaction tomorrow to see if it works. If it does, I'll go ahead with my plan.



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[*] posted on 27-1-2016 at 21:22


Bumpity Bump.

No noise on this project for a while and so I just thought I would draw attention to it again. Competition closes in a couple of months so it is not too late to make a start. Of course that time could slip away quickly if you are not careful.

As always, post here or send me a message if you have questions.
Feel free also to give a progress report or encourage others along.

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[*] posted on 15-2-2016 at 02:06


I am pretty sure I have decided on a project for the contest entry. One question - am I correct in assuming that water does not count as one of the five OTC items (since one could build an apparatus to extract it from the air)?

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[*] posted on 15-2-2016 at 02:12


Good to hear Jjay. I can't wait to read the submissions.

In the rules, water and air can be used as much as you want without counting towards the five items.




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[*] posted on 22-2-2016 at 15:48


I hope my lack of unique experiments is overcome by the hopefully good presentation I make...



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[*] posted on 23-2-2016 at 01:37


TVC
I am sure you will do a great job. I have said it before but I will repeat it. I can't wait to see all of the submissions. My only concern is that with the generous time scale the momentum has worn off for a few competitors. I know of two who have had to pull out due to a change of circumstances. I am hoping for a good turn out. But if not, I would say that if you submit something then your chances of walking away with a grand prize are pretty good.




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[*] posted on 27-2-2016 at 09:48


Thanks!
Today I'll begin the write-up, and I realized a way I could use something more complex for one of my five items without loosing any of the reactions. Thanks for running this! Looking forward to seeing everyone Else's entries.




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[*] posted on 18-3-2016 at 17:40


Just alerting everyone that this has about ten days left.
Prize is still good.

If you haven't started then it is probably cutting it a wee bit fine. If you have made some progress, time to write up what you have. I am really looking forward to seeing all the ideas.




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[*] posted on 24-3-2016 at 14:58


I have some time off work, so here is what I am experimenting with this weekend:

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[*] posted on 24-3-2016 at 16:20


woohoo!
What is in your starter fluid?

I can see some interesting possibilities here.




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[*] posted on 24-3-2016 at 18:22


Diethyl ether, light petroleum (really, a mixture of n-heptane and methylcyclohexane), and carbon dioxide.
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[*] posted on 28-3-2016 at 00:53


I don't think I'm going to complete my entry by the deadline, but hopefully someone wins that prize :)
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