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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 17:03
Blasting Caps?


Hello , im new to this forum. I joing because im about to make Acetone Peroxide and Hexamethylene triperoxide diamine to use them for blasting caps. After a lot ready i saw that the most of people dont really want to mess up with peroxides because they are too sensitive. What should i use for blasting caps that is safer ?
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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 17:10


What is your intention to use the Blasting Cap for?
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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 17:23


Quote: Originally posted by MineMan  
What is your intention to use the Blasting Cap for?


Thank you for the fast respond.
I want to detonate some Ammonium Nitrate / Fuel Oil and some Det Cord if i finally obtain it
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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 17:34


wait.... You want to make a cap with a peroxide? Or to detonate a peroxide?

I read it again. You want to use peroxide as the primary in a casing? I'm no energetic a guy, but I figured i would use lead azide, mercury fulminate, or diazodinitrophenol, since they are relatively easy to make, and the needed supplies are reachable.

Try something that won't kill you in such a small margin of error.

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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 17:41


Quote: Originally posted by Loptr  
wait.... You want to make a cap with a peroxide? Or to detonate a peroxide?


Sorry for my bad English, i want to use peroxide to fill the blasting caps

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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 17:47


Read the edit to my post above. I give alternatives.

So where are you from?
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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 17:52


I would never combine a secondary with an organic peroxide, such as is done in some initiators.

Also, please elaborate more on your interests in ANFO and det coord. Is ANFO the only thing you are able to access, or does it have a particular use in mind?

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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 18:06


Im from Greece , i dont actually need to use it somewhere. I just love explosives and explosions. I though of AP and HMTD cause they are easy to make and also cheap and ANFO too. Im interested of making some DDNP but its harder to make. Also i would like to make some RDX cause its easy to make i think and i have plenty of hexamine at the moment.
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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 18:41


HMTD is much more reliable to handle then TATP. But the caveat is even with this you must be meticulous in your synthesis, and do quality control.

If you want to play in this field you need to do a great deal more learning befor starting in this as ONE mistake WILL KILL YOU

In energetics there is rarely ever a second chance, and if you do get one you will not be whole.

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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 20:36


In my opinion peroxides get a bad rep mainly due to how easy to make and thus prolific they are.

It seems stupid people manage to maim and kill themselves with even the safest of explosives like smokeless powder, if lead azide and mercury fulminate were as easy to make as TATP they too would have horrible reputations pertaining to their "unpredicable" nature.

Basically all primary explosives are dangerous and unstable by definition, *as far as primaries go* TATP is actually moderately friction and impact sensitive with a high sensitivity to heat, in my experience HMTD is actually more sensitive to friction. Silver acetylide is the least sensitive primary that's fairly easy to make that I can think of.

It takes a fairly powerful initiator to set off ANFO, a pencil sized cap isn't close to being big enough. You need a booster like 50 grams of powdered AN/Al 85/15 or something to get anything more than a partial det.
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[*] posted on 9-5-2016 at 23:27


This thread is borderline at what we should discuss on sciencemadness. No problems with the chemistry of certain explosive compounds, but when it comes to discussion of how to make an actual device, which can be used as bomb or as part of a bomb, then the thread will be closed.



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[*] posted on 10-5-2016 at 02:36


Close it now please. A kewl with bad grammar and no experience who doesn't speak English and wants to blow up easy to make EMs? I'm 14, and I have more sense than that...

You say that you want to do RDX? I am just getting in to EMs like you are, and I am starting with perchloric acid distillation! This sounds worryingly like a Phone incident waiting to happen.

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[*] posted on 10-5-2016 at 03:05


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This sounds worryingly like a Phone incident waiting to happen.

And in light of your own "safe" starting point, a "kettle and pot" incident already happened . . . ?:D

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[*] posted on 10-5-2016 at 05:00


I haven't started yet. I will start with perchloric acid distillation when I get a Liebig condenser setup. This is a more long term project...
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