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White precipitate from NaOH + Al reaction?

Rumoden - 17-11-2018 at 04:26

The other day, I was just trying to make hydrogen gas by reacting NaOH with some aluminum foil. Out of interest, I decided to leave the solution overnight. The once black solution turned colorless with white precipitate on the bottom. What precipitate might this be?

I thought this is NaAlO2 but according to Wikipedia NaAlO2 is soluble in water.

12thealchemist - 17-11-2018 at 05:01

How much precipitate is there relative to the quantity of sodium hydroxide/aluminium you used? i.e. could it be an impurity in the foil? Aluminium foil is usually ~98% aluminium and 2% alloying agents/impurities

Ozone - 17-11-2018 at 05:28

An over-simplification, but aluminum hydroxide. It is amphoteric, so increasing pH further should cause it to dissolve.

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AJKOER - 19-11-2018 at 04:41

Ozone, that’s a great paper, but perhaps a bit dated (1967).

In addition to the reaction occurring on standing, I further suspect also if one actually leaves out a solution of sodium aluminate, in contact with air, that any dissolving CO2 may react (see below) resulting in a precipitate of Al(OH)3 and the introduction of aqueous NaHCO3:

Al(OH)4- (aq) = OH- (aq) + Al(OH)3 (s)

CO2 (aq) + OH- (aq) = HCO3- (aq)

Net: Al(OH)4- (aq) + CO2 --> HCO3- (aq) + Al(OH)3 (s)

To quote a study from 1997 (https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/... ):

"....aluminate in high level waste. Care was taken to minimize exposure of the samples to air since aluminate solutions and solids are extremely hygroscopic and deliquescent, in addition, absorption of atmospheric CO2 occurs readily in solutions exposed to air and therefore such exposure was minimized. Solutions prepared from commercial grade sodium aluminate (method B) were contaminated with carbonate as well as fluorescent impurities that interfered with measurement of Raman spectra."

Also:

"Kinetics of aluminate precipitation:
Precipitation of sodium aluminate from supersaturated solutions is extremely slow at room temperature (22 C). In fact, very concentrated solutions (5-6 M Al) can be prepared as long as they are not heated above about 40 C. At 60 C, all supersaturated' solutions precipitated monosodium aluminate over a period of hours to days. At 22 C, these solutions were stable for several months."

[Edited on 20-11-2018 by AJKOER]