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[*] posted on 4-2-2008 at 10:13
i need some help with resonance


hi all. i'm having a little trouble with an o chem problem for school. we have to draw all the resonance structures for p-dimethylaminophenol and p-nitrophenol. i think i'm on the right track, but do i start moving electrons from the OH group toward the N or the other way? any help would be great.
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[*] posted on 4-2-2008 at 13:05


The way I looked at it wasn't as 'electrons moving' but rather, electron density.

There are a few special cases where electrons or electron pairs really do move around a molecule, but in most cases of resonance, I <i>think</i> that they don't move.

Resonance drawings are not 'real', but more a thought exercise. It shows you the overall electron density as a combination of the acceptable resonance structures. Think of it as a method for overcoming the weakness of simple lewis structure drawings in organic (oh, and inorganic) chemistry.

I remember being reminded that 'electron pushing' a'la reaction mechanisms are not strictly true, but still are useful in predicting a mechanism.

So in your case, both the alcohol and amine/nitro groups are electron donating. You'll get a combination of benzenes with a delocalised negative charge from the amine/nitro and alcohol.

p.s. Yes, I was both rewarded and reviled for my creative use of dotted lines, curved 'multi-bonds' and some shading in org.chem.




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[*] posted on 4-2-2008 at 14:17


thanks for your help. i know that the structures aren't "real" but i still have to be able to draw them for the test. i also understand that they will delocalise but for the purpose of the test, do you start at the -OH end or the N?
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[*] posted on 4-2-2008 at 14:50


All you have to remember is that for the purposes of "electron pushing" you have to 1) identify which groups are electron rich and electron poor; and 2) push electrons in the direction of "electron rich to electron poor."

So, for the example of p-nitrophenol, you start with those lone pairs in the hydroxy group...

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[*] posted on 12-11-2011 at 10:35


This should give some idea about how resonance works


concreson.PNG - 21kB

[Edited on 12-11-2011 by AndersHoveland]
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