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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 05:58
Source of Sodium Azide


In my attempt to produce lead azide, I have found a supplier of sodium azide: http://www.amresco-inc.com/SODIUM-AZIDE-0639.cmsx

250 grams for $47.64 seems reasonable but is far more than I need. Does anyone know of another supplier?




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:03


If you buy some, and have too much, I would gladly buy you some.

I don't know any supplier in north america else than chemicals company that sell only to institutions, I know some in Europe tough.




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:10


plante1999,

Are you familiar with the above supplier? Do you think they will not sell without being an institution?




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:15


Quote: Originally posted by malford  
plante1999,

Are you familiar with the above supplier? Do you think they will not sell without being an institution?


No, they will not and they are quite unambiguous about this.

"AMRESCO's products are available to companies or institutions only. Direct sales to the public are not available."

http://www.amresco-inc.com/home/about-us/AMRESCO-Ordering-In...
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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:17


I own an LLC so I can probably swing this. I have received free HTSC wire before :-D



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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:20


Well, from their shipping info page: " On-line orders can be shipped to domestic business or institutional addresses only. Products cannot be delivered to residential addresses. " So, unless you have a business address, you may be out of luck.

http://www.amresco-inc.com/home/about-us/Shipping-Informatio...
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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:28


TADA:

http://reagentshop.com/home/358-sodium-azide-reagent-980-500...

No need for a company or company address.

But if you buy a lot, keep me a part of it.




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:32


Nice find. Group buy, anyone? I accept PayPal lol

Update:
Another supplier: http://creschem.com/sodium-azide-100g
Reasonable price, unsure about residential shipping

[Edited on 22-6-2013 by malford]




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:38


I will, but I would like to keep the original bottle if possible, malford could put in bottle part of everyone, and ship me the original bottle. How much do you need malford?

Don't know if the supplier you gave ship to residential, but the azide is too costly.

[Edited on 22-6-2013 by plante1999]




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:48


The most I need is half of that. I would be fine with as little as 100 grams if anyone else wanted some.

Edit:
Yes, your supplier is by far the cheapest I've seen.

[Edited on 22-6-2013 by malford]




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:54


Do you mind me to ask what is the use? And we need more people for the group purchase, I would take half, maybe more if a part can be paid in chems or labware.



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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 06:59


I'll take some.
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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 07:24


$0.24 per gram plus $6 US shipping via USPS Priority.

gnitseretni, do you know how much you'd like?

Edit:
plante1999, at the risk of sounding kewl, I intend to use it to experiment with sub-gram lead azide detonations. What about you?

[Edited on 22-6-2013 by malford]




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 07:34


Aziridine, special amine synthesis. And a reaction that need expelation of nitrogen to form C-N with nitrogen at oxidation state 6 which is fairly reactive.

I might also experiment a bit with primary, but it is not my main interest at all.





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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 07:37


100g sounds about right.

EDIT: Are you getting 500g? Plante said he'll take half, so 250g for him, 100g for you, 100g for me.. that leaves 50g. I'll take that, too, if we can't get more buyers.

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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 07:55


Sounds good. Yes, it's 500 grams.

250 plante
150 gnit
100 for me

If you guys message me your addresses, I'll see what the exact postage is. I print shipping labels from home. Then, I'll message you the total.




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 08:56


Could I purchase the extra 50 grams?
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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 10:17


Personally, I feel that with such chemicals as sodium azide - which is both very toxic and explosive - they should only be shared on the forum with well-established members, as opposed to people like Blue Matter, who's only post is asking for this 50g of the azide here.



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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 10:24


Well, I'm afraid he's already too late. I sent Malford money for 150g.
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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 10:27


If you sent money for 150g, then there is no problem, blue can't buy the 50g, because gnit baught it.

Funny, reagent shop sell everything to everyone everywhere. Including red phosphorus, gamma butyrolactone etc...

Reagentshop, "your source for suspicious and regulated chemicals"

[Edited on 22-6-2013 by plante1999]

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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 11:04


plante, do you feel the sodium azide may be fraudulent from this supplier?

For the record:

150 grams bought by gnit
50 grams bought by blue matter
plante is unsure of how much he wants lol




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 11:07


I do not, but I feal it is a supplier for clandestine chemistry.

I don't think it is a good idea malford to sell the azide to blue, azide is extremely poisonous, be careful, watch the people that you sell to, I would cancel blue order rigth now if I were you.




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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 11:17


You have inspired me to draft a contract eliminating my liability. Everyone expect to receive it soon.

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[*] posted on 22-6-2013 at 12:09


APCpure in UK sells 100g amounts including whatever acid you might want to get a hold of to whoever has money.. neat site for us who live in europe



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[*] posted on 23-6-2013 at 13:25


Can anyone post information about the legal status of sodium azide? I have seen several references to it being prohibited, controlled, unavailable, but I am finding several websites that sell it. I am wondering if 500g may be a bit too much. Obviously I want to avoid being charged for something because I have materials that can be used to make explosives.

Wouldn't lead azide, as with any other explosive, be legal to produce in very small quantities if it is not sold, distributed or used for business purposes?

Also, has anyone had any experience with either chemsavers.com or smokechemicals.com?



[Edited on 23-6-2013 by malford]




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