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[*] posted on 10-11-2014 at 09:35


Quote: Originally posted by unionised  
Is it just my imagination, or is this a rather long thread to see if someone has silver iodide (which is yellow) or copper iodide (which is white)?


CuI is only white when it's pure. Some of us often get off-white products which were supposed to be white.




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[*] posted on 10-11-2014 at 09:37


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Quote: Originally posted by unionised  
How can it be yellow when it doesn't exist?


It clearly exists for a while - the reaction where 2CuI2 --> 2CuI + 2I is relatively slow. You should try it, it's educative.

Now the fact that the OP does not have CuI2 because of its instability, is another question. Etc.


I have done the reaction, and while there is a transient yellow colour, that could easily be due to a CuI+ complex or other species. Or dilute triiodide ion, or....




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[*] posted on 10-11-2014 at 10:15


Quote: Originally posted by DraconicAcid  
Quote: Originally posted by DrMario  
Quote: Originally posted by unionised  
How can it be yellow when it doesn't exist?


It clearly exists for a while - the reaction where 2CuI2 --> 2CuI + 2I is relatively slow. You should try it, it's educative.

Now the fact that the OP does not have CuI2 because of its instability, is another question. Etc.


I have done the reaction, and while there is a transient yellow colour, that could easily be due to a CuI+ complex or other species. Or dilute triiodide ion, or....


Okay.

BTW, this text (with no actual corroboration except for "yeah, it makes some sense, why not...." states that cupric iodide can be stabilized with ammonium complexation:
http://copper.atomistry.com/cupric_iodide.html
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[*] posted on 10-11-2014 at 10:20


Quote: Originally posted by DrMario  

BTW, this text (with no actual corroboration except for "yeah, it makes some sense, why not...." states that cupric iodide can be stabilized with ammonium complexation:
http://copper.atomistry.com/cupric_iodide.html


Well, what do you think the blue colour we've been talking about is? The blue colour is the tetramminecopper(II) ion, and the iodide counterions are still there in solution with it.




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[*] posted on 10-11-2014 at 11:46


Quote: Originally posted by DraconicAcid  
Quote: Originally posted by DrMario  

BTW, this text (with no actual corroboration except for "yeah, it makes some sense, why not...." states that cupric iodide can be stabilized with ammonium complexation:
http://copper.atomistry.com/cupric_iodide.html


Well, what do you think the blue colour we've been talking about is?

"Blue" (with its myriad hues) could very well be a colour of a hypothetical CuI2-ammonium ion complex. I don't know that that's not possible.
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