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[*] posted on 24-6-2013 at 03:53


Well, on ebay they have hundred of good feedback. I even saw a US guy that had baugth 500g RP for 120$, and he was an happy customer, so yea, pretty sure they put something else on the label.

As for shipping hmm, I will think to it.

[Edited on 24-6-2013 by plante1999]




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[*] posted on 24-6-2013 at 04:30


If you buy through eBay, then it does not matter what is on the label of the parcel. Each eBay-transaction in principle can be known by US official agencies. Of course, eBay has a special web-API, giving access for USA-agencies and they can simply query that API to find out who purchased what, at any time. Not only eBay has such an API, every large publicly available software system with millions of users has such an API. Simply because of the huge number of transactions, not every bottle of red P will be "handled" by official agencies, but if they want to, then they can. It is just a matter of priorities for them. If the same person buys multiple bottles of red P in a certain time frame, or buys certain other chemicals in the same time frame, then it _may_ lead to manual investigations.


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[*] posted on 24-6-2013 at 06:08


Some chemicals are only on there website, mostly the very suspicious ones or that do not fallow shipping law.



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[*] posted on 24-6-2013 at 06:25


woelen,

Do you have source for the government software APIs. I would very much like to read more on that.




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[*] posted on 24-6-2013 at 06:50


Of course there are no well-document sources, but given the reality of this time, it is very hard to believe otherwise. Every large system (eBay, Facebook, Google+, Twitter, telecom operations, file upload sites, etc.) has such an API, only available to governments or special departments inside governments. It would be naive to believe otherwise. Technically these API's are nothing special, just plain REST-API's, which spit out their contents in XML or JSON or CSV or whatever suitable easy to use format.



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[*] posted on 24-6-2013 at 06:54


Isn't this API you speak of the little bar code on the right side of your package? Also malford did you get my U2U



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[*] posted on 27-6-2013 at 15:22


Just found they also had an ebay listing for the azide:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Sodium-Azide-Reagent-98-0-500g-/33094...

If I buy any, I will only offer to canadian member, and I will probably be obligated to sell 250g of it.




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[*] posted on 27-6-2013 at 17:36


BTW "LE inquiry" includes unintentional detonation of Pb-dextrinated-or-not azide resulting in sudden and full attention if not death, and uh, large fireworks that are discovered for one reason or another. Whatever the intent, though conversion to the lead salt by the actors here is assumed if not admitted, could some formal documented Google-indexed group buy end up in civil court somehow? Perhaps selling azide to Jack Shit has potential for more liability nowadays than other hazardous chemicals have, at least with US juries?



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[*] posted on 18-8-2013 at 18:06


Saw this on ebay today any thoughts?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/sodium-azide-/271254175633?pt=UK_BOI...




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[*] posted on 18-8-2013 at 18:24


try it, looks ok.



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[*] posted on 18-8-2013 at 18:29


Did you ever buy the 500gs you were talking about?



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[*] posted on 18-8-2013 at 18:42


Not yet.



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[*] posted on 18-8-2013 at 23:27


Quote: Originally posted by Blue Matter  
Saw this on ebay today any thoughts?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/sodium-azide-/271254175633?pt=UK_BOI...

Seller looks OK, but I would not buy this if you are not in Europe (seller is in Hungary). There is a good chance that customs intercept this material and I can imagine that this may lead to trouble at the receiving side.
Only if the material is shipped according to IATA safety rules, then I would order it from outside Europe, but if I look at the price for shipping this material to the USA, then I don't think it is shipped according to IATA rules.

It is also very peculiar that he ships worldwide, except to Hungary (this is explicitly excluded).


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[*] posted on 19-8-2013 at 02:28


And on checking his top-rated feedback one finds a lot of it is from sellers rather than buyers . . .



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[*] posted on 19-8-2013 at 14:08


found this today if anyone wants a smaller quantity of azide for a pretty good price.

http://www.chemsavers.com/search.php?search_query=azide




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[*] posted on 23-8-2013 at 19:09


Quote: Originally posted by Blue Matter  
found this today if anyone wants a smaller quantity of azide for a pretty good price.

http://www.chemsavers.com/search.php?search_query=azide

My invention which required the rapid production of gas no longer has any plans to use sodium azide or lead azide, obviously because of the illegality or restrictedness of these substances. I wish this thread would be closed or deleted because I no longer am attempting to source sodium azide. There are much better, easier and less risky substitutes.
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[*] posted on 27-11-2013 at 16:45


I just got hold of a good quantity of sodium azide. I'm planning to make aniline with benzoic acid when I will get some. Also aziridine. Any one got other ideas?



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[*] posted on 2-12-2013 at 07:23


Aniline from benzoic acid with sodium azide? Whast route is used for that?



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[*] posted on 2-12-2013 at 09:02


Initially I thought Curtius rearrangement but on review there is a variation called the Schmidt reaction.
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[*] posted on 2-12-2013 at 09:14


Marvin is right, the reaction seams pretty straigthforward and worth a try, when I will get old of some more benzoic acid.



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[*] posted on 19-1-2014 at 12:03


I just found a reasonably priced source for small amount of sodium azide for interested:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Sodium-azide-NaN3-25g-/221313569690?p...




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[*] posted on 19-1-2014 at 12:22


That's funny, I purchased that exact item from the same seller about a month ago. No complaints at all, they're legit :)
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[*] posted on 19-1-2014 at 13:00


How was it labeled?



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[*] posted on 19-1-2014 at 13:23


As sodium azide, formula, m.w. etc. They didn't include an msds, most eBay sellers don't...
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[*] posted on 20-1-2014 at 20:18


Anyone do think I paranoid to not want order from guy who sells 1,4butanediol and (!) p2np (!) ? Penalty in my country very cruel for crank make.
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