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[*] posted on 24-4-2009 at 19:56
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Here is what I think is a dramatic example of polymorphism. The first picture is that of natural stibnite, which I believe is quite pure Sb2S3. It's crystral structure is rhombic. The second picture is also of Sb2S3, but its structure is amorphous. The amorphous red-orange material was made directly from the stibnite crystal.





stibnite crystal.jpg - 8kB

[Edited on 25-4-2009 by Magpie]

amorphous Sb2S3.jpg - 45kB
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[*] posted on 24-4-2009 at 22:01


Magpie, can you tell us how the orange stibnite was created?

A full write up would be nice if you can.
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[*] posted on 25-4-2009 at 07:38



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Magpie, can you tell us how the orange stibnite was created?


Yes, it's very easy:

1. Grind up a little stibnite to a powder in a mortar. It's quite soft.
2. Add a smidgen (~ 25 mg) of this powder to a small test tube.
3. Add ~ 1 mL of 6M HCl and stir. Heat the mixture in a hot water bath until the powder is dissolved. You will see tiny bubbles of H2S evolving.
4. Add 2-3 drops of 5% thioacetamide and place in the hot water bath. Within seconds the clear solution will turn a beautiful red-orange!

Sb2S3 + 6H+ +8Cl- ---> 2[SbCl4]- + 3H2S(g)

Note 1: The 5% thioacetamide generates H2S in a warm acidic solution. Another source of H2S could be used if necessary. 5% thioacetamide is just a very convenient source of H2S. I highly recommend it.

Note 2: If a 1/8" piece of aluminum wire is added to the clear solution of dissolved stibnite in "3." above and then placed in the hot water bath great quantities of hydrogen will be generated and black flakes of antimony will appear.

Note 3: All this is from the qualitative analysis testing for antimony in the Group II cations.

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[Edited on 25-4-2009 by Magpie]
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[*] posted on 25-4-2009 at 11:52


Woelen's site <a href="http://woelen.homescience.net/science/chem/exps/raw_material/sb2s3.html">lists</a> a way to make yellow Sb<sub>2</sub>S<sub>3</sub> by dissolving stibnite in HCl and dumping the resulting solution in water. He claims it is hydrated, but doesn't seem to have any proof.

Other sources* describe a number of different preparations of amorphous Sb<sub>2</sub>S<sub>3</sub> ranging from yellow to red, with the color variable on heating. It is certainly an interesting group of compounds.

HgS does something similar, with cinnabar (trigonal) being red, and hypercinnabar (hexagonal) and metacinnabar (isometric) being black.

*See <a href="http://www.archive.org/stream/inorganiccolloid031247mbp/inorganiccolloid031247mbp_djvu.txt">here</a> (long; search for "antimony sulfide pigments") and some of the papers cited within

EDIT by woelen: Changed link to my site such that it works again.

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