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Just bought an FTIR Spectrometer

So I just bought this Nicolet IR300 with ATR. I have the omnic software already and im just waiting on it to get delivered to me. I will update once i get it.

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well that's ace

they are pretty useful, ive always found it peculiar though that you can't rely on it as backup for your television ir remote.

I have a doggedness in watching for a bargain and ftir's rarely seem to come up. I wonder if its hardware based, having some essential expensive component that just has a finite life or if its just that people like to keep using the one they are used to.
Now seriously some advice, if you find it disappointing in any way just give it to me, don't settle for one you kind of like, find your ftir soul mate
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It looks like it is well taken care of and that is a good brand of ATR so that is promising. Once you get it I would look at the windows on either side of the sampling compartment to see if they are fogged up. If there is no fog in the windows then that is a good sign the instrument was stored properly. In the meantime it would be beneficial for you to try and dig up any user manuals you can find on this specific instrument online. Try to figure out if it communicates with a PC via ethernet or by some other means. If it uses ethernet then check to see if it uses a static IP address. Good luck!
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it uses serial cable can i use a usb to serial does anyone know?
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you may have to find a few different adapters but once you find the right one should be good. I've come across this issue befor.

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ok great thanks. i actually seen 2 other ATR units same as my FTIR comes with for sale on ebay one for $3000 another for$16000. Would anyone actually pay $16000 australian for a used one? since i got my FTIR with ATR for$3000 i was quite happy with that price after seeing the just the ATR for $3000. Bmoore55 Harmless Posts: 44 Registered: 23-7-2018 Location: Texas Member Is Offline I don’t think you should pay$16000 for a used ATR that seems crazy. Can you provide links?
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 Quote: Originally posted by XeonTheMGPony you may have to find a few different adapters but once you find the right one should be good. I've come across this issue befor. 2 adapters both had the same specs but only one worked!

Yeah, USB-to-serial adaptors seem to be flaky, but they are cheap, so if you have to try a few to find one that actually works it is not so bad.
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The one for $16000 is gone now haha the seller must of realised what a crazy price it was. I thought maybe to buy a more expensive usb to serial in hopes its better than the cheap ones. What do you guys think? BTW my FTIR is still making its way across the USA so hopefully it leaves the USA soon on its way to Australia. pantone159 International Hazard Posts: 539 Registered: 27-6-2006 Location: Austin, TX, USA Member Is Offline Mood: desperate for shade The USB-to-serial that worked ok for me was an IOGear GUC 232A, fwiw. None of them are perfect, I think it is very difficult to get the electrical signals just the same as with a real physical serial port. I would avoid trying to get the cheapest possible one, sure, but still be prepared to question it. nleslie321 Hazard to Self Posts: 55 Registered: 7-11-2017 Location: krakatoa Member Is Offline Mood: just right I found the ad for$16000
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Golden-Gate-Diamond-ATR-Spectrom...
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 Quote: Originally posted by nleslie321 I found the ad for \$16000 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Golden-Gate-Diamond-ATR-Spectrom...

the guy sells vases, necklaces, and high current fuses, probably has no idea of the value of that instrument, or someone sold it to him for wayyy more than it's worth

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So my IR Spec just arrived at the depot so im going to collect it now will update with pictures etc when i get home.
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Ive got it finally just finished cleaning it inside and out to remove dust. Cant get a serial to usb plug until the morning so i will test it tomorrow.

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I bought the same model and I think it is from the same seller, judging by the picture. I have been having a hard time finding the software for mine since it doesn't work with Omnic 9. Let me know if you make any progress on getting software to make yours work; I'll let you know if I find anything as well.
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Im working with the bloke from essential FTIR to get the ir300 working with his software. I also have contacted a heap of people to try get omnic 7 or 8 and have heard from a few people who said they should be able to get a copy. Ill continue working with essential ftir tonight to get that running with ir300.
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Please let me know if you have any luck. I noticed if you use essential ftir and select the Mattson option it is able to sense that the device is connected but it doesn't recognize what type of device it is.
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I have a plugin off the owner that removes the check for machine model and lets you use eftir software. Im having a hardware issue now with the moving mirror. Is yours working hardware wise?
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I also have a copy of Omnic 8.3 now. I will try it tomorrow to see if it works with the IR300.
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Is there any way I could get a copy of omnic 8.3 as well as the driver for eftir?
I haven't been able to test if any of the hardware is working other than visually observing the laser path. I do know that when I turn the machine on the laser appears as though it is slightly in the wrong position. When I received mine one of the ZnSe crystals on the ATR had fallen off and it was bouncing around in the machine, I popped it back into place but it had some scratches on it. It doesn't look like the laser is traveling through the ATR correctly on mine.

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