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chempyre235
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Issues Loading the SM Website
I've been having problems loading pages on this site for the past three or four days and based on the short list of visitors in the last 24 hours, I
suspect I'm not alone in this. Do any of the mods know what the problem is?
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results." -Winston Churchill
"I weep at the sight of flaming acetic anhydride." -@Madscientist
"...the elements shall melt with fervent heat..." -2 Peter 3:10
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Radiums Lab
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I am also facing similar issues from past few days.
Water is dangerous if you don't know how to handle it, elemental fluorine (F₂) on the other hand is pretty tame if you know what you are doing.
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DraconicAcid
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Same here (on mulltiple computers).
Please remember: "Filtrate" is not a verb.
Write up your lab reports the way your instructor wants them, not the way your ex-instructor wants them.
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RedDwarf
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I've been having the same issue for several months, the website becomes unavailable for a period time (greater than an hour, sometimes several).
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Admagistr
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Yes, it happens to me too. It's unpleasant...
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esquizete_electrolysis
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I’ve noticed as well. Usually the https portion of the site remains unloadable, but the http service remains up most of the time.
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chempyre235
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It seems at least for now, the loading issues have subsided over the weekend.
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results." -Winston Churchill
"I weep at the sight of flaming acetic anhydride." -@Madscientist
"...the elements shall melt with fervent heat..." -2 Peter 3:10
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Sulaiman
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I have had problems with SM lately - something has changed recently.
Also, if I have more than one tab open with SM, things may go really slow.
(so, check for unused tabs)
I am using chrome on android.
CAUTION : Hobby Chemist, not Professional or even Amateur
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BromicAcid
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If I recall correctly this was brought up a few months ago, Polverone stepped in and said the issue is that the site is being constantly scraped for
AI learning/training and that is overwhelming the server.
It was mentioned in this thread:
https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=16...
[Edited on 10/28/2025 by BromicAcid]
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chempyre235
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I'd forgotten about that until you brought it up (I even posted on that thread  ). I saw that someone had suggested using a CAPTCHA, but services like CloudFlare are designed to limit bot traffic and speed up websites and
networks without having to perform tasks. I've got no idea of pricing, though. However, it seems to be commonly used even on sites whose hosts I
wouldn't expect to have much funding, so maybe it's feasible.
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results." -Winston Churchill
"I weep at the sight of flaming acetic anhydride." -@Madscientist
"...the elements shall melt with fervent heat..." -2 Peter 3:10
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Twospoons
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This is still a problem. I've been unable to access SM for days at a time.
Helicopter: "helico" -> spiral, "pter" -> with wings
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mayko
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might be the first time I've seen this... 
al-khemie is not a terrorist organization
"Chemicals, chemicals... I need chemicals!" - George Hayduke
"Wubbalubba dub-dub!" - Rick Sanchez
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violet sin
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I've had trouble as well. To me I could usually seem to get in like once a day, but later in the day it would time out over and over. Some times
it's been a few days in a row, I always chocked it up to my poor coverage and mint mobile service provider. But... It sounds like a larger problem
and my suspicions anecdotal at best.
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j_sum1
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Not ideal, but I have found a workaround that works much of the time.
View the http version of the site instead of https.
[Edited on 20-11-2025 by j_sum1]
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bnull
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Frigging flaming hell. I was reading a post and clicked to open one of the attachments on a new tab when, all of a sudden, I get a 403 forbidden
anywhwre in the tree. Emptied the cache, tried a private tab. Nothing.
This is the first time a see a 403 here. As I write, I'm accessing the forum through VPN (I'm not in Japan).
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Radiums Lab
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@j_sum1 mentioned a workaround for this in the Secret Santa thread, it works good for me.
[Edited on 22-11-2025 by Radiums Lab]
Water is dangerous if you don't know how to handle it, elemental fluorine (F₂) on the other hand is pretty tame if you know what you are doing.
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bnull
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I had been using that trick occasionally but it does nothing to the 403.
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Keras
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It seems to be better since a couple of days. Might be the server which ran out of VM?
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After a long time away from this forum, today I try to connect back and keep getting "Connection timeout". At first I was worried this corner of the
internet was gone, but after some more digging I found the website just became so slow that the browser times out every time.
For those having the same problem, here's how I "fixed" it. I'm using Firefox, went to about :config and increased the following timeouts to 300
seconds:
network.http.connection-timeout
network.http.tls-handshake-timeout
Although with this trick I can login and browse the forum, it is so slow that every page load takes minutes so it's far from a real fix.
Since it looks like the slowdown issue is due to AI bots crawling it massively, may I suggest to the sysadmins to install anubis?
https://anubis.techaro.lol/
It's a firewall designed specifically to stop AI crawlers, and I've seen it used effectively for other websites sharing the same problem. I've never
installed it or configured it though, so I do not have direct experience with it.
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Radiums Lab
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This forum is finally running after several days. I was scared that this was dead.
Water is dangerous if you don't know how to handle it, elemental fluorine (F₂) on the other hand is pretty tame if you know what you are doing.
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Are the downtimes going to get increasingly longer until one day it never comes back?
Was quite worried for those three days too.
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Radiums Lab
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I noticed one thing tho, Polverone was online after many days. He might have fixed it.
Water is dangerous if you don't know how to handle it, elemental fluorine (F₂) on the other hand is pretty tame if you know what you are doing.
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bnull
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Here's another thing: the number of "guests" goes from 300-400 when the forum is running smooth to over 1200 when it becomes unstable.
I hope this AI bubbles bursts and takes the parent companies down with them.
[Edited on 6-12-2025 by bnull]
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BromicAcid
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Quote: Originally posted by bnull  | Here's another thing: the number of "guests" goes from 300-400 when the forum is running smooth to over 1200 when it becomes unstable.
I hope this AI bubbles bursts and take the parent companies down with them. |
It is insane to me, our forum used to have to have at most 20 or so guests on at a time, now it's never not in the hundreds, and of course these are
not real people. Sadly we used to usually have more members active than guests at any given time but usually it's just one or two of us on the main
page.
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bnull
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The last time I checked yesterday we had 268 "guests". Right now we have 558.
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