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[*] posted on 9-8-2011 at 20:19
Distillation sizes with 14/20


I was looking to get a distillation set-up in 14/20, but have read that it is on the small side is generally used to distill much smaller quantities than a 24/40 setup, for example. What is the limiting factor here? Is it the actually diameter of the glass, or flask/reaction vessel size?

I am trying to decide between getting a 14/20 or a 24/40 setup. 14/20 seems desirable because of its small size ( seems like it would be easier to setup/manipulate), but I am scared of it being too small and not being very useful. Also, 14/20 does not seem to be nearly as common as 24/40, which might make it costly/hard to expand the setup. My immediate use for it would be mostly concentrating/distilling acids- would 14/20 be unable to process useable/significant quantities? Of course, I could probably just run multiple distillations.
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[*] posted on 10-8-2011 at 04:41


I have a 14/20 set and a 14/10 set (for 2-3 mL distillation). I have found 14/20 to be very useful and easy to find. You are right, it does seem to be hard to find, but if you look, you will find it easily. ;)

14/20 is somewhat limited to large quantities of fluid, which can be frustrating sometimes, but any amount up to ~450 mL is fine. You can't go higher because the column and condenser will flood really easily at those volumes, and 14/20 has a much smaller diameter that 24/40 (half diameter, coincidentally). I very rarely need to distill more than 200 mL, though. I don't know what kind of chemistry you want to perform, but the semi-micro synthetic organic that I practice seldom uses more that 200 mL.

Another problem is powder transfer. If you wanted to put 100g of a flour-like powder into a 14/20 flask, you would find it difficult. Powder funnels don't work because they don't fit in the neck, so it just gets messy. :mad:

In all, I completely recommend the 14/20 set. The fluid limitations aren't really a problem, and the pieces are much smaller and easier to manipulate and handle than 24/40.

EDIT:

Have you considered 19/22? I see this size very often, and it seems like a good compromise between these sizes.

[Edited on 10-8-2011 by redox]




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[*] posted on 10-8-2011 at 06:49


Thanks redox!

450mL is more than plenty, so it sounds like it would work well for me. I would consider 19/22, but I am trying to get some glass from Dr.Bob because he has some pretty good prices and but hes got only 14/20 and 24/40. And thanks for the tip on the powder! He actually has some glass powder funnels that fit the 14/20, so I will get sure to grab one of those too :)
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[*] posted on 10-8-2011 at 07:11


I only use 19/22. 24/40 is standard, but too big and expensive for my macrochem purposes. I do have a 14/20 pear shaped flask, but I always have to use an adapter for it to fit. I agree with redox; 19/22 is small enough for micro chemistry, but large enough for decent experiments if you wish to do other larger experiments. I personally think a 500 mL flask looks funny with a 14/20 joint, as with a 25 mL flask with a 24/40 joint, but they all work with my 19/22!

(In fact, it was a professor friend I have that got me into 19/22. He was generous enogh to give me a rbf and it was 19/22, so I just kept buying that size to go with it, but soon I discovered it is the best size. the keck clips for it aren't too expensive, and you can use all sorts of ring stand clamps!)

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