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[*] posted on 24-6-2012 at 20:21
Practical uses of granular aerogel?


Hello, everybody. I have heard a lot of excitement about silica aerogels, and after hearing how much potential this material may have, I really wanted some. UnitedNuclear.com sells aerogel in granular and monolithic cylindrical form, the latter being many times more expensive (29mmx7mm= $39.00!). Granular aerogels are MUCH cheaper, $5.50 for 100 cc's. My question is, why is it so much cheaper to produce, and what could I do with this aerogel if I decide to buy it? Thank you.

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[*] posted on 24-6-2012 at 20:28


Granular aerogel is not cheaper/easier to make, but aerogels and the hydro/alcogels that proceed them are very brittle and thus are easy to break. Aerogel monoliths are considered more more attractive and thus sell for a lot more, especially if they are not cracked/flawed.
Considering the cost of granular aerogel, even though it could be used as a loose fill insulation, it would be far cheaper to buy aspen aerogel's flexible aerogel insulation.

It would even be cheaper to produce your own aerogel at home (though much more difficult)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X24np30GS2o




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[*] posted on 24-6-2012 at 21:08


Yeah, I have seen a few videos on synthesizing aerogel, but the only thing is, I don't have TMOS or a supercritical dryer. I probably wouldn't save money on making it, unless I needed large amounts because supercritical dryers cost upwards of $500 to build. (worse still, if I wanted to buy a used cheap one, the lowest would be in the $10,000 range.)
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[*] posted on 10-7-2012 at 19:26


Aerogels are also used as filters, where granules are just as good as solid blocks in certain cases. I don't think there is anything more useful than whimsical that you could do with granular aerogel.



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[*] posted on 11-7-2012 at 10:28


An interesting use of aerogels would be to put some platinum/palladium ect. on it's surface and use it as a heterogeneous catalyst. It would be easy to make, it has ultra high surface (would be highly active) and it is not heavy (as Pd/BaSO4) so it wouldn't settle down to the bottom of your flask.



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[*] posted on 11-7-2012 at 13:31


If you try this beware water can be destructive to aerogels.



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[*] posted on 11-7-2012 at 15:27


Quote: Originally posted by Diablo  
If you try this beware water can be destructive to aerogels.


PdCl2 is soluble in several organic solvents what won't effect the aerogel so much and it is not impossible to dry it from it.




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[*] posted on 11-7-2012 at 17:11


Aerogel can be subcritically dried from hexane and maybe toluene so I would try those first. link to procedure http://www.aerogel.org/?p=1443



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