Dr.Muto
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Old recipee school AA/PA/SA or Tex 2 step=PA/LA New School Troubles
So there in topic heading u have it. After old school practice I found my self with plenty of time 2 study past the recipee.Practical apps opportunity
nonexistant. Finding the ole truism about text book vs field work too true.Now in the crunch find myself short the simplest skills I think.Have in
old school practice done well, and text book research discovered much. In practice I am finding I left a lot of important things out of my studies
apparently. Such confession out I will say help! I chose this acetate method because of what I readily could obtain, an alt. to the PA of old. Though
I think perhaps I should have persued that over this ethylacetoaceto method. Still this EAA method is an ole tried true way, and seems book wise to b
a very clean low scent method of simplicity.. not so simple, in precursor to me, though I think that my fault. Ch3Ch2oNa not available this moment,
later yes. Now though having a little trouble with that dry et & Naoh thing. Worse In making the mercuric sulfate 4 HgCl2 am having trouble
understanding and doing the pull of product from the reacted Hg & H2So4.Help I Say Help. Thanks
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Dr.Muto
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Kraft Degredation perhaps...
Perhaps AA/PA/SA & tex 2 step Pa/La/ kraft varient or vs versus any event forgoing post need any light any can shed
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Dr. Muto, your posts are nearly incomprehensible. Please take a little more time to format them and to write clearly. Your heavy use of shorthand and
abbreviations makes posts harder to understand without improving the speed of reading. Also, note that this site is intended for chemistry, so there
will not be much discussion of applying "recipes." Discuss your chemical problems in clear chemical language and we'll all get along fabulously.
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appologies
I will rephrase and do my best to respect this sites methods of communication
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Polverone
I realise your site is about chem,mystery , or so I find it some times and not mere recipe. My reference to that was merely to say that was my back
ground. Which of course landed me with much time to study and learn more. To my chagrin my studies were amiss on many things that a true chem student
would not be without! Perhaps it was the practical apps i missed that left me short sighted. Perhaps simple formal training.Perhaps it is simply a
small IQ, hope not. Any way in a spot and everyone has been quite generous in sharing thier thoughts and expertise. For wich I am thankfull. I was
refering to the old Phenyl Acetic acid methods popular some years ago in which eather;Acetic Anhydride,Phenyl Acetic Acid,& Sodium Acitate yielded
Phenyl 2 Propanone, Or in shorter(though not so prefered)method we used Phenyl Acetic Acid & Lead Acetate often refered to as the texas 2
step.While I could have shot for sythesis of PhenylAceticAcid I opted For the EthylAcetoAceto Acetate condensation reaction via sodiumethoxide and dry
ethyl alcohol addition of iodobenzene , lye wash Pheyl 2 Propanone. fallowed by mercuric chloride aluminum amonium hydroxide and alcohol. But
precursors are kicking my ass because I dont know enough basics
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