DrEvil
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Making amino acid nitrate's
There is not alot info regarding amino acid nitrate's.
There have been done glycine nitrate: here
I was wondering what other amino acids that can be used with only NHO3 to make amino acid nitrate's.
Here are some i was thinking of:
Alanine - C3H7NO2
Aspartic acid - C4H7NO4
Glutamic acid - C5H9NO4
Serine - C3H7NO3
Threonine - C4H9NO3
Anyone here Explored any synthesis of these? Or have any useful info om amino nitrate's?
I am interested i exploring different types and testing power.
Sorry for bad english.
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With regard to oxygen balance and energy output...
Glycine nitrate will be better than other amino-acids --> better explosive performances.
H2N-CH2-CO2H. HNO3 is very close to methylamine nitrate with an added CO2...
CH3-NH2. HNO3 + CO2 -irreal reaction->HO2C-CH2-NH2.HNO3
Maybe you could investigate:
-Glycine perchlorate:
HO2C-CH2-NH2
-Arginine dinitrate or diperchlorate:
HO2C-CH(NH2)-CH2-CH2-CH2-NH-C(=NH)-NH2
-Asparagine dinitrate or diperchlorate:
HO2C-CH(NH2)-CH2-CO-NH2
-Dinitrotyrosine nitrate or pechlorate:
HO-Ar-CH2-CH(NH2)-CO2H
Perchlorate will be better than nitrates, eventually nitroformiates.
Or make synthetic amino-acids with more basic groups for fixation of oxydisers anions....
HO2C-CH(NH2)-CH(NH2)-CO2H (diamino tartric acid) --> dinitrate or diperchlorate or dinitroformiate
HO2C-C(NH2)(-CH2-NH2)2 --> 3 anions fixables..
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Thank you for answer, i quite new. But made some compounds allready. And im careful and wanting to know much before trying.
I was only interested in plane nitrates from only mixing with HNO3.
I don’t have access to conc H2SO4 or HNO3 yet so nitration I need to wait with.
But ty for giving me some good example`s and explanation.
I see there will be a OB problem but how will they perform or will they perform at all? Not a point in making it?
Is it possible to synthesis other amino acids as with glycine nitrate synthesis? Mostly thinking of serine to serine nitrate?
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I see there will be a OB problem but how will they perform or will they perform at all? Not a point in making it?
Is it possible to synthesis other amino acids as with glycine nitrate synthesis? Mostly thinking of serine to serine nitrate? |
Bad OB will mean less power and they will perform bad or very bad (worst than a bad black powder).
It is possible to synthetise amino-acids via Strecker synthesis reaction for amino-acid.
R-C(-R')=O + NH4C#N (or more conveniently NaC#N and NH4Cl) --> R-C(-R')(NH2)-C#N
R,R' being = H, Ar or Alk
R-C(-R')(NH2)-C#N + H2O --H(+)--> R-C(-R')(NH2)-CO2H + NH4(+)
Serine dinitrate (O2NO-CH2-CH(NH3ONO2)-CO2H) will be unstable a bit like ethanolamine dinitrate, 2-amino-1,3-propantriol trinitrate and
TRIS-tetranitrate...
The -CO2H and -NH3NO3 induces acidity that is bad news for the stability of the nitrate ester of the alcohol function.
PH Z (PHILOU Zrealone)
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