Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Layer Seperation between Acetone and Isopropanol!
Austin
Harmless
*




Posts: 1
Registered: 4-11-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 14:23
Layer Seperation between Acetone and Isopropanol!


Hey all,

I recently mixed a solution of acetone and methanol with 98% Isopropanol (which I gathered from 70% solution by salting out) and there is clearly a layer seperation. The top layer is the Isopropanol (smell and amount which I used) and the bottom layer is clearly the acetone methanol solution.

Supposedly acetone and Isopropanol are miscible, yet there is clearly a seperation of layers?? What gives?

I hypothesize that some salt (a small amount) dissolved into the Isopropanol and helps it dissociate from the acetone-methanol solution?

What is your input?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Texium
Administrator
Thread Moved
4-11-2016 at 14:49
aga
Forum Drunkard
*****




Posts: 7030
Registered: 25-3-2014
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 15:16


A photo ?



View user's profile View All Posts By User
unionised
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 5106
Registered: 1-11-2003
Location: UK
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 16:44


"98% Isopropanol (which I gathered from 70% solution by salting out)"
Who says it's 98%?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
DraconicAcid
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 4280
Registered: 1-2-2013
Location: The tiniest college campus ever....
Member Is Offline

Mood: Semi-victorious.

[*] posted on 4-11-2016 at 16:54


Acetone, isopropanol and methanol are miscible. If you've got something that's not mixing with acetone and methanol, it's not isopropanol. Maybe it's the saturated salt solution that you got from trying to salt out the isopropanol?



Please remember: "Filtrate" is not a verb.
Write up your lab reports the way your instructor wants them, not the way your ex-instructor wants them.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Tsjerk
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 3022
Registered: 20-4-2005
Location: Netherlands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Mood

[*] posted on 5-11-2016 at 12:29


Is a mixture of methanol acetone isopropanol and water fully miscible? I would guess it is, but if not water is a likely candidate to mess things up.

What salt did you use to salt out the iso-prop? And I wouldn't call smell and or amount good indicators for compound identification in this case, at all.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
alking
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 252
Registered: 11-3-2016
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 8-11-2016 at 17:35


My guess is you pulled some water and salt over so you have a partially miscible solution of the 4 liquids plus some salt. Afaik they are all fully miscible, but salt is only substantially soluble in the water which can obviously have an impact on things. I can't tell you exactly what is going on beyond that, but I'd be surprised if that bottom layer does not contain at least salt and water.
View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top