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[*] posted on 15-2-2007 at 19:24
How much an air conditioner can pump as a vacuum pump


http://www.belljar.net/refrig.htm
sorry everyone, I figure I should have realized I will get about 1 cfm (I have a small compressor) so I shouldn't have really asked..... But this could still be a thread about using air conditioner compressors as vacuum pumps.

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[*] posted on 15-2-2007 at 19:37


I have never had a problem using an air conditioner compressor as a vacuum pump. And they all work very well and best of all you can just use them till they destroy themselves. Beware that pulling ammonia through them will easily eat the coils :D

http://www.destructve.com/bromicacid/carbonate.htm

The link that is above goes to a page where I have my apparatus set up for the preparation of ethylene carbonate. The vacuum is used to pull ammonia off as it is formed. I ran this into a wash bottle full of 30% H<sub>2</sub>SO<sub>4</sub> but as the reaction progressed the ammonia gas being pulled through the pump started to dissolve it leading to the blue color seen in the wash bottle in the picture.




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[*] posted on 15-2-2007 at 20:32


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Originally posted by BromicAcid
I have never had a problem using an air conditioner compressor as a vacuum pump. And they all work very well and best of all you can just use them till they destroy themselves. Beware that pulling ammonia through them will easily eat the coils :D

http://www.destructve.com/bromicacid/carbonate.htm

The link that is above goes to a page where I have my apparatus set up for the preparation of ethylene carbonate. The vacuum is used to pull ammonia off as it is formed. I ran this into a wash bottle full of 30% H<sub>2</sub>SO<sub>4</sub> but as the reaction progressed the ammonia gas being pulled through the pump started to dissolve it leading to the blue color seen in the wash bottle in the picture.

Thanks, that looks like an interesting site....
What coils are you reffering to, or was that supposed to be "oil"?
Did you remove the starting capacitor? That's what the bell-jar page says to do, but it sounds like a funny thing..... I mean, as far as the compressor is concerned, it's still in the air conditioner, except with regards to cooling, no? according to the capacitor article on wikipedia
"In an inverse fashion, to initiate current quickly through an inductive circuit requires a greater voltage than required to maintain it; in uses such as large motors, this can cause undesirable startup characteristics, and a motor starting capacitor is used to increase the coil current to help start the motor."
so it is some sort of load-leveling thing, maybe the compressor will work without it, but it's better to leave it in?
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[*] posted on 16-2-2007 at 05:06


By coils, I meant the pipes on the inside of the compressor itself, at least some of it is made of copper and that is what was being eroded by the ammonia. I didn't remove the capacitor, I just took the whole compressor out of an air conditioner as it was and didn't tinker with the electrical at all, it ran fine, I just kept the part that read the temperature on the cooling coil off to the side so it never turned off from thinking it was cool.



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