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Can someone please help with chloramine hcl

smartgene1 - 31-12-2017 at 20:38

Can someone please help with chloramine hydrochloride I know how to synthesis chloramine but I don't know how to make it a salt can some please help I would appreciate it

Assured Fish - 31-12-2017 at 22:05

How did you prepare the chloramine in the first place, ammonia and sodium hypochlorite?
If this is the case then you will likely have dichlorinated impurities in your gas flow.

To prepare the acid salt i would have assumed it would act like most other amines and simply react with HCl forming the salt.
Have you tried this?

Alternatively the chloride may steal enough of the electrons off the amine for the amine to be electronegative enough to form a sodium salt.
Im skeptical of this thought however as sodium hypochlorite is normally stabilized with an excess of NaOH and this would surely react with the chloramine enough to prevent it from leaving the solution.





[Edited on 1-1-2018 by Assured Fish]

smartgene1 - 1-1-2018 at 02:21

I made the chloramine with chlorine water and ammonia. I thinking of reacting chlorine with ammonium chloride to see what it would do

unionised - 1-1-2018 at 05:21

Does chloramine form a hydrochloride?
Is it that good a bases?

Sigmatropic - 1-1-2018 at 07:40

That is a very bad idea. Chloramines will disproportionate into nitrogen trichloride at low pH. As can be found in a 10 second Google search

http://homepages.uc.edu/~maynarjb/Frontpage%20sites/603/Geoc...
https://www.lenntech.com/processes/disinfection/chemical/dis...

Figure-I3-Distribution-of-chloramines-as-a-function-of-pH-According-to-equilibrium.png - 42kB

Assured Fish - 1-1-2018 at 14:07

My source of assumption for chloramine hydrochlorides existence.

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/substance/341564608#section...