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[*] posted on 11-7-2007 at 00:13
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Quicklime is one of those chemicals that I imagined would be very easy to find...but not so. I have been to home improvement stores (Lowes and Home depot for those in the U.S.) and they only carry gardening lime (limestone) and slaked lime. What types of stores sell quicklime (CaO MgO)?

Any help locating lime would be greatly appreciated.
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[*] posted on 11-7-2007 at 04:31


The same is true in germany too. No CaO in the stores.
But ceramics suppliers often have it, in 50kg sacks. You could search for a local one. I have also seen online ones that carry it.

If you cant get any CaO, buy the slaked lime, and "re-calcine" it. It already loses its water at 450°C to form CaO again, that temperature can be easily reached in a steel can on a charcoal fire (cover the can to keep CO2 from the fire out).

[Edited on 11-7-2007 by garage chemist]




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[*] posted on 13-7-2007 at 18:20


Calcium carbonate (shells, limestone) in a pot on a bed of hot coals or a fire should do it. Release carbon dioxide to form calcium oxide. Add water for calcium hydroxide.



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[*] posted on 13-7-2007 at 20:07


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Calcium carbonate (shells, limestone) in a pot on a bed of hot coals or a fire should do it. Release carbon dioxide to form calcium oxide. Add water for calcium hydroxide.


You need to get to 900 C or so to do this with any speed. This is a good orange glow, even bright cherry red is under 800 C.

You can speed things up by having some airflow, but that should be drawn from fresh air, not gases coming off the fuel.
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[*] posted on 13-7-2007 at 23:13


yes...calcination is an option... I was just trying to avoid the process. Sometimes making/purifying every single chemical I use just gets tedious.

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[*] posted on 14-7-2007 at 04:50


900 C would be hard to achieve for extended periodis of time, maybe a little bit of propelent would help, or bellows, or store bought charcoal. But becuase much of the lime you may find on store shelves may have gone bad (calcium hydroxide), it might be worthwhile to make some calcium oxide yourself despite thet fact that it is annoying to do. Besides you can use the wood ash to make potasium permangate and if your good you can get the wood and the shells all for free!

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[*] posted on 14-7-2007 at 07:36


Well...I think if I do try it I'd use calcium hydroxide, just because it has a more manageable decomposition temperature (580c according to wiki). Although more effort would need to be put into protecting the Ca(OH)2 from the charcoal's CO2.

All in all though...I think this would be a lot of work just to obtain a desiccant. If I don't find it locally I am considering just buying a couple pounds of molecular sieves.

p.s. Garage chemist do you know why CaO is used in pottery?
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[*] posted on 14-7-2007 at 08:04


common source for calcium hydroxide?



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[*] posted on 14-7-2007 at 08:05


slaked lime

Edit: This is what CaO is being replaced with for masonry uses

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[*] posted on 14-7-2007 at 08:07


Do local home depot/ace/lowes carry that?



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[*] posted on 14-7-2007 at 08:07


yes check my edit
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[*] posted on 14-7-2007 at 08:09


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