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[*] posted on 13-5-2011 at 05:20
aryloxozolines


I no there is old threads about this topic but a long time ago and with some unanswered questions that someone might be able to put some light on.
The cyclization of the isomers 1r.2s and 1s/2r of arylaminoalcohols with potasium cyanate yeilds trans aryloxozolines which i can understand because the amine group is facing in the same direction as the hydroxy group allowing cyclization to take place.
But with the 1s.2s and 1r 2r isomers they have the hydroxy group facing opersite the amino group so i couldn't see how cyclization could take place without some form of inversion.
I am in the understanding that the 1s.2s and 1r,2r isomers go to the oxozolidinones ? Is this correct or does somehow the 1s.2s and 1r.2r produce cis aryloxozolines.


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[*] posted on 13-5-2011 at 14:38


? whats going on here. I posted a question about organic chemistry and it ends up in beginings i didnt think it was that simple ,the last post a wrote on this got removed completly.

I think it least deserves a responce

By the way i am not a drug cook and have got no intension of being one .I don't want to end up in jail at my age of 50 that would be dumb.
I just like the chemistry SO DON'T CALL ME ONE OR TREAT ME AS ONE


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[*] posted on 13-5-2011 at 16:07


Quote: Originally posted by azo  
? whats going on here. I posted a question about organic chemistry and it ends up in beginings

Quote: Originally posted by Nicodem  
Please open threads without references, and/or with vague or unanswerable questions only in the Beginnings section.
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[*] posted on 14-5-2011 at 00:30


To clear things up the starting aminoalcohol is phenylpropanolamine but i haven't been able to find a mechanism for the cyclization of
phenylpropanolamine with cyanate salts to aryloxazolines.
There is a lot of info in regards to the cyclization with cyanogen bromide,but the mechanism is different because with cyanogen bromide norephedrine would yield the cis isomer but using a cyanate salt it would yield mostly the trans isomer.
Can someone please explain the difference of these mechanisms and tell me if the 1r 2r and the 1s 2s isomers of phenylpropanolamine produces aryloxazolinones or the corrosponding cis aryloxazoline.





hope this helps my question
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[*] posted on 14-5-2011 at 08:33


I know nothing of the mechanism of this rxn, but the alcohol probably epimerizes or the reaction goes through a carbocation intermediate (if it is true that only trans is produced by the rxn).



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[*] posted on 14-5-2011 at 12:49


Can you give a picture of what ones you are talking about?
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[*] posted on 15-5-2011 at 03:12


Thanks for the reply smuv and green d .
Here is a diagram of the 4 isomers of 4 mar,but i am unable to give a mechanism for the cyclization of phenylpropanolamine with cyanate salts , If i had a mechanism it could put some light on whether norpsheudoephedrine affords cis 4 mar or aryloxazolinones.There is very little references to this rxn so i thought i would have to put it to the many brilliant people from this site to give there thoughts on it.
I hope now that it is in the beginers section that it would still get answered by the members that would normaly post in the organic section.


many thanks azo

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