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Boric acid is used as ant/roach killer as boron is quite toxic to them.
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Very interesting. Seems more dilute or adulterated than I had suspected:
http://www.roebic.com/pdf/DrainFlowMSDS.pdf
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In addition to naphthalene mothballs, I've also seen p-dichlorobenzene ones. I didn't buy either type, because they both smell awful and I had no use
for either of them. Might get some at some point though (who knows, they might be banned before long).
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I was under the impression that the fine particle size gets into their joints and they become disabled. I think diatomaceous earth works the same
way.
Boric acid is pretty mild stuff chemically. It can be used as an eye wash.
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
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Quote: Originally posted by zts16 | In addition to naphthalene mothballs, I've also seen p-dichlorobenzene ones. I didn't buy either type, because they both smell awful and I had no use
for either of them. Might get some at some point though (who knows, they might be banned before long). |
I've used the naphthalene moth balls for chemistry - I believe it's produced by sublimation. It's very pure. Both types of mothballs are sold
locally for me. I worry that the para may replace the naphthalene type. I should stock up.
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
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Quote: Originally posted by zts16 | In addition to naphthalene mothballs, I've also seen p-dichlorobenzene ones. I didn't buy either type, because they both smell awful and I had no use
for either of them. Might get some at some point though (who knows, they might be banned before long). |
p-dichlorobenzene That name scares me! A benzene-based organochloride, and
it's suspected to be a carcinogen, no wonder they might get banned.
"Appearance and odor: A viscous black liquid with a sulfur odor"
How could 90% sulfuric acid be a viscous black liquid, what are they adding in the other 10%?
[Edited on 9-4-2015 by Cou]
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Quote: Originally posted by Cou | Quote: Originally posted by zts16 | In addition to naphthalene mothballs, I've also seen p-dichlorobenzene ones. I didn't buy either type, because they both smell awful and I had no use
for either of them. Might get some at some point though (who knows, they might be banned before long). |
p-dichlorobenzene That name scares me! A benzene-based organochloride, and
it's suspected to be a carcinogen, no wonder they might get banned. | Stay out of public restrooms then. (it's
also what urinal cakes are made out of)
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29% Hydrogen peroxide (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area LoneStar Hydroponics and Texas Hydroponics both carry it)
38% Nitric acid (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area Texas Hydroponics carries it [Dutch Pro PH- Grow in 1L and 5L sizes])
10% Nitric acid (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area LoneStar Hydroponics and Texas Hydroponics both carry it as Technaflora)
30% Phosphorus acid (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area Texas Hydroponics carries it [Dutch Pro PH- Bloom in 1L and 5L sizes])
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Quote: Originally posted by carrant |
29% Hydrogen peroxide (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area LoneStar Hydroponics and Texas Hydroponics both carry it)
38% Nitric acid (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area Texas Hydroponics carries it [Dutch Pro PH- Grow in 1L and 5L sizes])
10% Nitric acid (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area LoneStar Hydroponics and Texas Hydroponics both carry it as Technaflora)
30% Phosphorus acid (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area Texas Hydroponics carries it [Dutch Pro PH- Bloom in 1L and 5L sizes])
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Thank you for listing stores in the DFW area.
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Quote: Originally posted by Cou | Quote: Originally posted by carrant |
29% Hydrogen peroxide (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area LoneStar Hydroponics and Texas Hydroponics both carry it)
38% Nitric acid (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area Texas Hydroponics carries it [Dutch Pro PH- Grow in 1L and 5L sizes])
10% Nitric acid (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area LoneStar Hydroponics and Texas Hydroponics both carry it as Technaflora)
30% Phosphorus acid (hydroponics/organics store; in the DFW area Texas Hydroponics carries it [Dutch Pro PH- Bloom in 1L and 5L sizes])
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You're welcome!
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25% Acetic acid (specialty grocery stores;in the DFW area Kuby's German grocery store)
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CaCl2 in moisture absorbents
Activated charcoal in moisture absorbents, also in pharmacies
Sodium bisulfate a pH reducer, sometimes mixed with sodium sulphate.
Citric acid as a pH reducer too
Aluminium sulphate, iron II sulphate, in (garden stores?)
Aluminium potassium sulphate as a water treatment chemical, sold in pharmacies
Methylene blue in pet shops, it is used in fish tanks
Sodium carbonate is used in pH increaser.
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Also quite toxic to humans as well, especially borax. Because borax is metabolised into boric acid in the body, it can easily cause death. Recently in
the news a family of 4 died when they mistook borax for sugar.
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Nitric acid and phosphoric acid can both be found in hydroponics stores as pH down.
The purest brands of sulfuric acid are Liquid Fire in home depot, and Rooto drain opener in Ace, but I'm not sure if they have buffers or not.
[Edited on 19-4-2015 by Cou]
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The liquid fire I saw in ace hardware in 2009 had buffers listed as one of the ingredients
Chemistry is a natural drive, not an interest.
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@ Deathunter88: "Recently in the news a family of 4 died "?
quote from wiki, "Borax, sodium tetraborate decahydrate, according to one study, is not acutely toxic.[27] Its LD50 (median lethal dose) score is
tested at 2.66 g/kg in rats,[28] meaning that a significant dose of the chemical is needed to cause severe symptoms or death. The lethal dose is not
necessarily the same for humans."
IF it was the same, I'd be needing to eat ~229g to pass on or become very sick. basically 132.8ml of solid...
I'm not saying it didn't happen, but could I ask where this occurred? kinda wondering how it was consumed? "... 5 to 20 g/kg has produced death in
adult humans...." from wiki for boric acid... ~423g of that on the light side for me, 1,272g on the high side. so this makes me kinda curious
because that was a strictly human number for boric acid...
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I've read that heating it to a boil will deactivate the buffers, i'm not sure about that.
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Sodium Bromide, 99%: ProTeam Mustard and Black magic, 2lb.
Pool supply store
Ascorbic Acid, 100%: NOW Vitamin C Crystals, 8oz.
Vitamin section of health food store
Polyethylene Glycol 3350, 100%: CVS Purelax, 4.1 oz.
CVS
Mineral Oil, 99.9%: CVS brand, 16 oz.
Xylitol, 80%: Ideal No Calorie Sweetener, 2.65 oz.
Grocery store
Sucrose, 100%: Bulk in grocery store
Erythritol, >90% purity?: Swerve All Natural Sweetener, 4.4 oz.
Grocery store
Fructose, 100%: Bulk in grocery store
Dextrose, >95%: Sweet 'N Low packets
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I remember many a person mentioning the $2/2oz. packs of NaBr from wallmart, but I recently saw a larger pack from my local ACE, 2 lb for $5.50.
upgrade worth mentioning. sold as a yellow(mustard) algae treatment in swimming pools.( could have possibly been 1lb, can't find the pic I took)
[Edited on 20-4-2015 by violet sin]
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How much work are you talking? There's no elemental lithium in Li-ion batteries, cosidering cost and time, it'd be as practical as isolating lithium
from bipolar meds.
I think 'buffer' is the wrong term here. Strong acids can't even have a buffer, and it'd be sodium bisulfate if sulfuric was weak.
[Edited on 20-4-2015 by Molecular Manipulations]
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Quote: Originally posted by Molecular Manipulations |
I think 'buffer' is the wrong term here. Strong acids can't even have a buffer, and it'd be sodium bisulfate if sulfuric was weak.
[Edited on 20-4-2015 by Molecular Manipulations] |
That is what it is called on the bottle. Sure "buffer" is in fact the wrong word but thats what they are called.
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Magnesium Calcium Carbonate
Magnesium Calcium carbonate is sold as Dolomite fertilizer in garden stores.
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Quote: Originally posted by violet sin | @ Deathunter88: "Recently in the news a family of 4 died "?
quote from wiki, "Borax, sodium tetraborate decahydrate, according to one study, is not acutely toxic.[27] Its LD50 (median lethal dose) score is
tested at 2.66 g/kg in rats,[28] meaning that a significant dose of the chemical is needed to cause severe symptoms or death. The lethal dose is not
necessarily the same for humans."
IF it was the same, I'd be needing to eat ~229g to pass on or become very sick. basically 132.8ml of solid...
I'm not saying it didn't happen, but could I ask where this occurred? kinda wondering how it was consumed? "... 5 to 20 g/kg has produced death in
adult humans...." from wiki for boric acid... ~423g of that on the light side for me, 1,272g on the high side. so this makes me kinda curious
because that was a strictly human number for boric acid... |
Quote from wiki a few lines later:
But this is highly misleading, as humans have been known to die from amounts only a small fraction of the LD50. "The minimal lethal dose of ingested
boron (as boric acid) was reported to be 2–3 g in infants, 5–6 g in children, and 15–20 g in adults", according to the Agency for Toxic
Substances and Disease Registry.
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Quote: Originally posted by Molecular Manipulations |
How much work are you talking? There's no elemental lithium in Li-ion batteries, cosidering cost and time, it'd be as practical as isolating lithium
from bipolar meds.
I think 'buffer' is the wrong term here. Strong acids can't even have a buffer, and it'd be sodium bisulfate if sulfuric was weak.
[Edited on 20-4-2015 by Molecular Manipulations] |
Lithium batteries are a different breed to Li-ion batteries.
Lithium batteries contain lithium foil wrapped in itself using a suitably inert electrolyte, generally dimethyl carbonate.
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I found CTAB (cetyl tetramethyl ammonium bromide) available in 1lb quantites for $31.63/lb.
http://www.personalformulator.com/wvss/product_info.php?prod...
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