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[*] posted on 29-7-2009 at 08:22
lycra spandex analog


i have observed that lycra spandex may depolymerize under certain conditions. i was wondering if a more durable fiber could be made by replacing phosgene with 1,1 dichloroactone in the lycra spandex manufacturing process.
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[*] posted on 29-7-2009 at 10:33


COCl2 (the acid chloride of carbonic acid) is used to make polycarbonates, by reaction with diols or para-diphenols such as bisphenol A, para-HO-C6H4-CH2-C6H4-OH, in the presence of pyridine (which forms the hydrochloride with the liberated HCl). A more recent "green" alternative is the reaction of such substrates with CO2 (the anhydride of carbonic acid) under high pressure, with H2O being liberated and no need for pyridine. I believe references about the new process involving CO2 have previously been posted on this forum, and there should be recent patent literature about it. (Search on sites like http://www.patent2pdf.com and http://www.freepatentsonline.com ).

However, Lycra Spandex, which is produced as a highly elastic polyamide fiber, is NOT a polycarbonate, see http://www.lycraspandexlinks.com/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spandex , which do not seem to mention COCl2 used in the processes for making the stuff. Any depolymerization of it would occur under conditions similar to those under which polyamides like nylons may depolymerize, e.g. hydrolysis by strong acids or alkalis. Wikipedia says this about the chemistry involved:
Step 1: The first step is to produce the prepolymer. This is done by mixing a macroglycol with a diisocyanate monomer. The two compounds are mixed together in a reaction vessel to produce a prepolymer. A typical ratio of glycol to diisocyanate is 1:2.
Step 2: The prepolymer is further reacted with an equal amount of diamine. This reaction is known as chain extension reaction. The resulting solution is diluted with a solvent to produce the spinning solution. The solvent helps make the solution thinner and more easily handled, and then it can be pumped into the fiber production cell.
Step 3: The spinning solution is pumped into a cylindrical spinning cell where it is cured and converted into fibers. In this cell, the polymer solution is forced through a metal plate called a spinneret. This causes the solution to be aligned in strands of liquid polymer. As the strands pass through the cell, they are heated in the presence of a nitrogen and solvent gas. This process causes the liquid polymer to react chemically and form solid strands.

Substitution of 1,1-dichloroacetone for COCl2, not being an acid chloride unlike COCl2, in the polycarbonate process would result in no reaction at all under ordinary conditions. The nearest acid chloride homologs would be para-dicarboxylic acid dichlorides, starting with oxalyl chloride, ClC(=O)-C(=O)Cl, and including terephthalic acid dichloride, ClC(=O)-C6H4-C(=O)Cl , which, or alternatively the anhydride, is used to make PET plastic. Reacting these with a diol or para-diphenol would result in a polyester (with liberation of HCl), not a polycarbonate. Polyesters, used as clothing and other fibers and as sheets and bottles, are not as durable or resistant to UV light as polycarbonates. The main circumstances of any depolymerization of polyesters would be hydrolysis with strong acids or alkalis, similarly to any ester.


[Edited on 29-7-09 by JohnWW]
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