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[*] posted on 25-11-2010 at 07:59


Quote: Originally posted by Vogelzang  
Not only are Einstein critics called cranks and crackpots, but they are often called Nazis, too. Godwin's law! See page 1 column 1 of this article. http://www.4shared.com/get/3QDYXfow/AmJPhys1988-p413-415.htm...
From the above referenced paper, Am. J. Phys. 56 (5), May 1988:
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But von Soldner's calculation, though published in a major astronomical journal, was largely forgotten until it was ressurrected in 1921, in an attempt by Nazi sympathizers in Germany to discredit Einstein's "Jewish" theory of relativity.
This is the weakest possible evidence you might muster here, as the the critic in question was a registered member of Germany's National Socialist political party, the very definition of what it means to be a Nazi. The critic was in fact Philipp Lenard; the criticism itself is cited in the paper as footnote 6. If there's any doubt, the Wikipedia page states:
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He joined the National Socialist Party before it became politically necessary or popular to do so. [...] An advisor to Adolf Hitler, Lenard became Chief of Aryan physics under the Nazis.
Lenard did some of the original experimental work that led to Einstein's paper on the photoelectric effect.
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[*] posted on 25-11-2010 at 21:40


Quote: Originally posted by Vogelzang  
Not only are Einstein critics called cranks and crackpots, but they are often called Nazis, too. Godwin's law!
Under the Reich, early supporters of the "jewish relativity theory" enjoyed their
share of derision but the character of the epithets was usually sexually oriented.

"Merkwürdigliebe" was a popular term of abuse.
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[*] posted on 26-11-2010 at 08:07


Like I said, some Einstein critics are called Nazis.
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[*] posted on 28-11-2010 at 21:24


Why do all the threads here seem to lead to Nazis?
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[*] posted on 29-11-2010 at 07:19


Godwin's Law:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.




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[*] posted on 29-11-2010 at 10:26


Can we please stop being obsessed with Godwin's Law?

And Vogelzang, even if your evidence was strong, what's your point? Is it: sometimes Einstein critics are called Nazis, therefore, anyone who calls an Einstein critic a Nazi does not have a valid argument against Einstein criticism? You can't do that!

And also, I hope this paper isn't part of your Einstein criticism because I don't see how this invalidates his theories at all. Such things are common in science.

Thanks, though, interesting read.




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